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    WHY NOT RON PAUL?

    I've been getting more and more emails castigating me for not singing the Ron Paul song over and over, day after day, on my show. Sorry, folks. I know that Ron Paul is a Libertarian ... but for me the absolute overriding issue in this election, and possibly many elections to come, is the protection of our country from the forces of Islamic radicalism. I want to take the fight to the Islamic terrorists, not wait to fight them when they reach our borders. Ron Paul will not do that ... therefore I cannot support Ron Paul. Just that simple.

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    Boortz isn't a libertarian. He may be a member of the party. He may hold some views that are libertarian, but he is still an apologist for the state and the Bush administration. Interventionism is a socialist strategy no matter how you spin it.
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    ^ yeah.

    Why do you think he clings to the label of Libertarian even though he (obviously) doesn't agree with quite a few of the core Libertarian philosophies? Expediency? Pragmatism? Seems like his life would be a lot more clear if he'd just claim conservative. Oh well, whatever floats one's boat I suppose. Certainly doesn't hurt the Libertarian cause have the exposure someone like Boortz brings, but the conflicts are troublesome.

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    I can see Boortz's point.

    I mean, taking the fight to Iraq and Afghanistan is workin out so damned well...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BleedingHeadKen View Post
    ... but he is still an apologist for the state and the Bush administration. Interventionism is a socialist strategy no matter how you spin it.
    how is that? Boortz is just as critical of Bush and the republicans as he is to the democrats when he finds issues he disagrees with. You must not read him very much. Savage is in the same boat, just because hes a conservative, people assume he backs the Bush administration (who arent conservative) which he doesnt.

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    ^ yeah.

    Why do you think he clings to the label of Libertarian even though he (obviously) doesn't agree with quite a few of the core Libertarian philosophies? Expediency? Pragmatism? Seems like his life would be a lot more clear if he'd just claim conservative.
    Libertarian is a political party, conservatism is a philosophy. Democrats can be conservative, republicans can be liberal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mallard View Post
    how is that? Boortz is just as critical of Bush and the republicans as he is to the democrats when he finds issues he disagrees with.
    One can be critical of the Bush administration and still be an apologist for it. In this case, Boortz is a proponent of the war effort and interventionism in general.

    You must not read him very much. Savage is in the same boat, just because hes a conservative, people assume he backs the Bush administration (who arent conservative) which he doesnt.
    I wouldn't make any such assumptions.

    Libertarian is a political party, conservatism is a philosophy. Democrats can be conservative, republicans can be liberal.
    Libertarianism is a philosophy and the Libertarian Party promotes that philosophy in the political arena. Arguably, that is its main purpose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mallard View Post
    how is that? Boortz is just as critical of Bush and the republicans as he is to the democrats when he finds issues he disagrees with. You must not read him very much. Savage is in the same boat, just because hes a conservative, people assume he backs the Bush administration (who arent conservative) which he doesnt.



    Libertarian is a political party, conservatism is a philosophy. Democrats can be conservative, republicans can be liberal.
    Libertarian is every bit as much a political philosophy as conservatism. Republicans and democrats both have areas of their philosophies that borrow from the libertarian philosophy, as well as from each others'. RP is for the most part a libertarian, but he still belongs to the republican party. It's a matter of political expediency for him to do so. I don't see that Boortz gets any benefit from calling himself a libertarian though, that's all I'm sayin.

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    you know, yall are right. "Libertarianism" I guess can be considered a philosophy as much as conservatism or liberalism. I think Ron Paul is using his libertarian philosophy in conjunction with republican infrastructure to get somewhere because there just isnt a libertarian infrastructure.


    now, what happened to the greens? or the Reform party? im sick of tweedledee and tweedledum all covering each others ass while the country goes to ruin...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BleedingHeadKen View Post
    Boortz isn't a libertarian. He may be a member of the party. He may hold some views that are libertarian, but he is still an apologist for the state and the Bush administration. Interventionism is a socialist strategy no matter how you spin it.
    Agreed

    Boortz is a Bush shill

    no question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bman View Post
    Agreed

    Boortz is a Bush shill

    no question.
    Agreed. I find very little 'true' libertarian philosophies in his articles.

    Not a fan at all. I think he's another ignorant Bushie.
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