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    Despite both the media campaign to absolve Zimmerman and accept his cover story at face value as well as the protests alleging Martin's having been shot to death without justification, the fact that Governor Rubio has appointed a special prosecutor to investigate Zimmerman's killing Trayvon Martin is an unambiguous reflection upon the handling of the case by local police, even if Chief Billy Lee had not received a "no confidence" vote from the city counsel and taken a leave of absence.

    Whenever an armed man pursues and kills an unarmed man, serious questions should arise rather than the killer's account being bought readily. Does anyone disagree?

    Is Rubio a spineless politician attempting to placate an irate segment of the electorate, or does he genuinely feel that questions arise in the killing that cannot be so blithely dismissed?

    Why, one must ask, would anyone wish to forego such an investigation, voice identification analysis, time lines, phone conversations, and witness accounts of the events preceding the killing included?

    If they feel such a responsible approach will prove exculpatory for Martin's killer, they should welcome the belated attempt to ascertain the truth, surely. And show patience in the meantime.

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    I'm not the liar.
    Sorry. You've been exposed. The record show I never said what you claimed I said. You can kvetch all you want, but I'll stand by the evidence - as usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VERITAS View Post
    Sorry. You've been exposed. The record show I never said what you claimed I said. You can kvetch all you want, but I'll stand by the evidence - as usual.
    Oh I completely understand your intellectual and moral cowardice but I quoted you accurately and if you have any problems with my interpretation, perhaps you should take the opportunity to rephrase. You claimed the police bungled. Backpedal all you like, the phrase is right where I quoted it in post #655. Read it and weep. Am I kvetching? I don't think so. I haven't claimed people did things they didn't do. I haven't accused the police of bungling the case or making any errors. You did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VERITAS View Post
    Despite both the media campaign to absolve Zimmerman and accept his cover story at face value as well as the protests alleging Martin's having been shot to death without justification, the fact that Governor Rubio has appointed a special prosecutor to investigate Zimmerman's killing Trayvon Martin is an unambiguous reflection upon the handling of the case by local police, even if Chief Billy Lee had not received a "no confidence" vote from the city counsel and taken a leave of absence.
    Rubio is a senator, not the governor. The governor is Rick Scott. He appointed the special prosecutor.

    Whenever an armed man pursues and kills an unarmed man, serious questions should arise rather than the killer's account being bought readily. Does anyone disagree?
    evidently you have problems with the investigation that didn't produce the results you thought it should. Patience, wee-weeboy, patience. Most of us are interested in facts, you seem to be interested in displaying your hysteria and bigotry.
    Is Rubio a spineless politician attempting to placate an irate segment of the electorate, or does he genuinely feel that questions arise in the killing that cannot be so blithely dismissed?
    Rubio is a senator. He doesn't have any say in this. Your ugly implication that he lacks will is a clear demonstration of your trollery.

    Why, one must ask, would anyone wish to forego such an investigation, voice identification analysis, time lines, phone conversations, and witness accounts of the events preceding the killing included?
    "why?", one must ask, would someone not bother to get facts right before shooting off one's mouth?

    If they feel such a responsible approach will prove exculpatory for Martin's killer, they should welcome the belated attempt to ascertain the truth, surely. And show patience in the meantime.
    Who is it you're talking about? You're the only one I've seen claim that the police bungled and that an uninvolved senator is "spineless".
    Thats a pretty good demonstration of your idiocy.
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    Let's take a poll, vertigo. "How many people in this thread believe that vertigo claimed the police bungled the case?"
    "The lesson which life repeats and constantly enforces is "Look under foot." You are always nearer the divine and the true sources of your power than you think. The lure of the distant and the difficult is deceptive. The great opportunity is where you are. Do not despise your own place and hour."
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    Zimmerman's family: George handed out fliers, protesting police coddling of white suspect

    3:50 p.m. EST, April 5, 2012|
    By Rene Stutzman, Orlando Sentinel

    George Zimmerman handed out fliers at black Sanford churches a year ago, outraged that a white police lieutenant's son, captured on video sucker-punching a homeless black man, was not arrested on the spot, family members said.

    The fliers urged blacks to go to a Sanford City Commission meeting to protest and demand that the police chief be held accountable.


    What a racist!

    Shame on those who concocted fanciful tales over Zimmerman's guilt DESPITE eye witnesses.

    If the egg on your face isn't obvious enough yet....It will slowly morph into an omelette before this is over, as more and more exculpatory evidence is released, and the media's pitiful attempts to control public opinion are exposed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VERITAS View Post
    I must again caution you and others that only a thorough investigation into the circumstance of the killing itself can establish culpability.
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    Despite both the media campaign to absolve Zimmerman and accept his cover story at face value...
    Hmm. How can one be absolved from something unless he is guilty of that something? You can't be absolved from being "possibly guilty". I'm not seeing how your statement here, in which you are stating unequivocably that he is guilty of a crime, jibes with your demands the rest of us wait for a thorough investigation to "establish culpability".

    Quote Originally Posted by VERITAS View Post
    Why, one must ask, would anyone wish to forego such an investigation, voice identification analysis, time lines, phone conversations, and witness accounts of the events preceding the killing included?
    I'm late to this party and probably am not up-to-date on the ever-shifting stories being put out, but did anyone in the police department ever say they were going to forego an investigation? Not being charged on the night of an alleged crime isn't the same as never being charged at all. I believe it would only take IH posters here a matter of minutes to post numerous famous cases where someone, even someone the police were dead-certain was a murderer, wasn't charged for weeks or months while the prosecution made sure their case was solid, or could determine whether manslaughter or murder-one charges were more suited, or were moving to insure that they even had a case.

    I'm also certain the media-circus surrounding what should have been only a local story is making prosecutors extremely nervous about exactly what charges may be brought, and how they should be handled in light of possible violent ramifications afterward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonidas View Post
    What a racist!

    Shame on those who concocted fanciful tales over Zimmerman's guilt DESPITE eye witnesses.

    If the egg on your face isn't obvious enough yet....It will slowly morph into an omelette before this is over, as more and more exculpatory evidence is released, and the media's pitiful attempts to control public opinion are exposed.
    What's amazing is that the only racism evident in this case is media racism against whites.

    An Hispanic Man kills a Black man. Police, who are mostly Hispanic, handcuff the Hispanic man and take him in for questioning at a precinct where the police chief is Black. There is now an order for further investigations from an Hispanic Senator.

    The only race distinctly absent from this tragedy are Whites! Yet, if there are riots, "vengeance" will be sought against white folks, because the media and race-baiters have declared that that is how it should be. Like I said... amazing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oth-er View Post
    What's amazing is that the only racism evident in this case is media racism against whites.

    An Hispanic Man kills a Black man. Police, who are mostly Hispanic, handcuff the Hispanic man and take him in for questioning at a precinct where the police chief is Black. There is now an order for further investigations from an Hispanic Senator.

    The only race distinctly absent from this tragedy are Whites! Yet, if there are riots, "vengeance" will be sought against white folks, because the media and race-baiters have declared that that is how it should be. Like I said... amazing.
    Bingo.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars S View Post
    Let's take a poll, vertigo. "How many people in this thread believe that vertigo claimed the police bungled the case?"
    Why take a poll on what is obvious?
    Veritass doesn't even seem to understand our system of justice here in the USA.
    The TEA party is nuts I tell ya. They want to govern using the constitution as its guide. They want less spending, less taxes, smaller government, closed borders and a strong national defense. They’re kooky.



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