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Casey
03-03-2005, 02:39 PM
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Casey
03-03-2005, 02:40 PM
RCMP seize Khadr daughter's computer: report
Last Updated Thu, 03 Mar 2005 08:39:39 EST
CBC News

TORONTO - The RCMP seized a computer from the Canadian daughter of a suspected al-Qaeda financier when she entered Canada two weeks ago, according to a report.

Police officers took a laptop and other property from Zaynab Khadr as she entered Canada from Pakistan, the Toronto Star said Thursday.

Investigators believe the computer holds information about al-Qaeda's activities, said the report.

Khadr's father, Ahmed Said Khadr, is suspected of funnelling money to the organization through his charity organization. He died in October 2003 during a gun battle in Pakistan.

Zaynab Khadr's brother Omar is currently being held at a U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba on suspicion of terrorism.

The Khadr family made headlines when Zaynab's brother Abdurahman, in a CBC documentary, called his family an "al-Qaeda family." His father was friends with al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, he said, and sent his male children to military training camps in Afghanistan.

In the documentary, Zaynab expressed her support for the Taliban, Afghanistan's former hardline rulers, and her mother, Maha, suggested the United States deserved the Sept. 11 attacks.

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/03/03/khadr-computer050303.html

Casey
03-03-2005, 02:41 PM
INDEPTH: KHADR
Al-Qaeda Family: The firefight at Waziristan
CBC News Online | March 3, 2004

Reporter: Terence McKenna
Producers: Nazim Baksh, Michelle Gagnon, Alex Shprintsen
Editor: Avi Lev

Osama bin Laden
After Sept. 11, 2001 Osama bin Laden and other senior figures in al-Qaeda left the city of Jalalabad, Afghanistan and fled south to the tribal areas that straddle the Pakistani-Afghan border.

For years these areas have been self-governing and self-policing, and the tribal leaders here were happy to give sanctuary to al-Qaeda members and their families in exchange for cash.

There have been sporadic military offensives to look for them ever since.

One such offensive by the Pakistani army took place on Oct. 2, 2003. Senior al-Qaeda figures were reported to be holed up in a house in the province of Waziristan on the Pakistani side of the border. The Pakistan army surrounded the house and demanded a surrender. An intense firefight broke out and two Pakistani soldiers were killed.

The battle raged on for hours.

Finally a Pakistani Cobra attack helicopter shelled the house.

After the attack, 18 prisoners were taken. Eight bodies were pulled from the rubble. The Pakistanis were disappointed they had not found Osama bin Laden. But they did find the body of another man long identified as a senior leader of al-Qaeda – a 57-year-old Canadian citizen named Ahmed Said Khadr who was born in Egypt.

Ahmed Said Khadr
In late February 2004, in the Pakistani capital of Islamabad, Ahmed Said Khadr's wife, Maha, and 23-year old daughter, Zaynab, agreed to sit down for their first television interview since his death.

They have always claimed that Ahmed Said Khadr was not a terrorist. But now they say that he was proud to die as a shaheed, a martyr, a soldier of Islam.

"We believe that death comes when God had planned it, before He created the humanity, it's planned, so I just accept, [but] it hurt," Maha said.

"We believe dying by the hand of your enemy because you believe in… you're doing it in the way of Allah, that it's the best way to die," Zaynab told CBC. "My father had always wished that he would be killed… he would be killed for the sake of Allah. I remember when we were very young he would say, if you guys love me, pray for me that I get jihaded, which is killed."


Ahmed Said Khadr's wife, Maha, and 23-year old daughter, Zaynab
At the Pakistani defence ministry in nearby Rawalpindi, Maj.-Gen. Shaukat Sultan has no doubt about the true identity of Ahmed Said Khadr.

"So he was certainly a terrorist… because… he did not surrender voluntarily on the offer that was made earlier before the operation went in," Sultan said.

"This man did not surrender. That was one. Number two, the firefight started and the firefight lasted almost for 12 hours. And those people who were killed they were certainly those who were fighting thoroughly with the army troops."

Ahmed Said Khadr's 14-year-old son, Karim, lies in the military hospital in Rawalpindi, shot in the spine in the same battle that killed his father. He is paralysed from the waist down.

Maha would be happy if her children died the same way. "You know we are promised that we go to heaven," she says.

Zaynab says, "I'd love to die like that. I'd love my daughter to die… even if [it is] simple, very simple, naïve," Maha says.

"Yeah it's heaven. It's heaven, you know," Zaynab says.

Ahmed Said Khadr's 22-year-old son, Abdullah, escaped the fighting that day because he was away from the house running an errand.


Abdullah Khadr
He agreed to an interview only if we concealed his face, because he is still considered a wanted al-Qaeda fugitive in Pakistan. He says his father talked about becoming a martyr.

"Dying for Islam is… hopeful for every Muslim," Abdullah says. "Everybody loves to die for his religion," he says. "Every Muslim dreams of being a shaheed for Islam… like you die for your religion. Everybody dreams of this, even a Christian would like to die for their religion."

Two years ago, in Afghanistan, another of Ahmed Said Khadr's sons, Omar, now 17, was shot three times in a firefight with American troops.

Omar lost the sight of one eye. He is now in the infamous U.S. military prison at Guantanamo, Cuba, accused of killing an American soldier with a grenade.


Omar Khadr
Maha is proud of Omar. "Of course. He defended himself," she says. "He just did not give any – you know, I thought they were very simple kids."

"If you were in that situation what would you have done? I must ask everybody that," Zaynab says.

"I hope you don't say, 'I would bow down.' No, no, no," Maha says. "Wouldn't you like your Canadian son to be so brave to stand up and fight for his right?"

"He'd been bombarded for hours. Three of his friends who were with him had been killed. He was the only sole survivor," Zaynab says. "What do you expect him to do, come up with his hands in the air? I mean it's a war. They're shooting at him. Why can't he shoot at you? If you killed three, why can't he kill one? Why is it, why does nobody say you killed three of his friends? Why does everybody say you killed an American soldier? Big deal."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/khadr/

Casey
03-03-2005, 02:46 PM
PBS - son of al Qaeda

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/khadr/interviews/khadr.html

Watch the 60 minute program.

Win Media & Real Media
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/khadr/view/

Casey
06-20-2005, 03:09 PM
U.S. prisoner Khadr said to be suicidal
U.S. doctor issues report
James GordonCanWest News ServiceMonday, June 20, 2005

OTTAWA - A Canadian terrorism suspect imprisoned by the United States at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, has serious mental disorders and is at high risk for suicide, according to two recent psychiatric assessments.

The reviews of 18-year-old Omar Khadr -- conducted at his lawyers' request -- are included in hundreds of pages of U.S. court documents obtained by CanWest News Service.

In one report, Professor Eric Trupin of the University of Washington medical school warns Khadr is displaying symptoms of major depression and post-traumatic stress disorder, which could cause psychosis and irreversible hallucinations.

"My clinical experience with youth who have experienced significant traumas, such as those suffered by [Mr. Khadr], leads me to the conclusion that he has a serious mental disorder that not only requires an urgent treatment program, but also that his situation calls for the immediate cessation of mental and physical abuse," writes Prof. Trupin, an occasional consultant for the U.S. Department of Justice.

Omar Khadr was 15 when he was captured at an al-Qaeda compound in Afghanistan in July 2002 following a gun battle with American troops. He was shot three times after allegedly tossing a grenade and killing army medic Christopher Speer.

The teenager survived and was sent to the Guantanamo detention centre, now home to approximately 550 terrorism suspects.

Prof. Trupin notes the American military has reported 34 suicide attempts by detainees at Guantanamo Bay since January 2002, 350 incidents of self-harm in 2003, and 110 in 2004.

He based his March declaration on interview notes and accounts provided by Khadr's American lawyers, Richard Wilson and Muneer Ahmad, following a meeting with their client in late 2004.

The lawyers returned to Cuba in April 2005, this time armed with a questionnaire formulated by doctors at the University of Hawaii. In the recently declassified document, Mr. Khadr reports feeling worthless, having trouble sleeping and seeing things that aren't really there.

Daryl Matthews, a Hawaii State Hospital psychiatrist and a consultant to the U.S. Defense Department, concludes Mr. Khadr's symptoms suggest he meets "full criteria for a diagnosis of post-traumatic stress disorder."

Dr. Matthews adds his assessment shouldn't be considered a substitute for a full independent psychiatric evaluation, which the U.S. military won't allow.

The Matthews and Trupin reports were filed as exhibits in support of a recent motion for a preliminary injunction prohibiting the United States from interrogating or "torturing the petitioner or engaging in other cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment."

In February, Mr. Khadr's lawyers told reporters the teen had been beaten, threatened with rape, tied for hours in painful positions, and that soldiers used his body to mop urine off the floor.

In its response to Mr. Khadr's request to end interrogations, the U.S. Justice Department argues such a move would not only be unprecedented, but would jeopardize America's position in the war against terrorism.

It also insists all efforts are made to ensure humane treatment of detainees, and that incidents of abuse are dealt with appropriately. The documents reveal the Naval Criminal Investigative Service is probing Mr. Khadr's torture allegations.

Government lawyers attempt to cast doubt on the validity of the proxy psychiatric evaluations as well, saying Mr. Khadr shouldn't be granted relief from interrogations "on the basis of a Seattle psychologist's speculation that he suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder."

They add the "diagnosis" is based only on second-hand information gathered from notes taken by the terror suspect's lawyers, "who presumably do not themselves possess any expertise in evaluating an individual's mental health."

Department of Foreign Affairs spokesman Rodney Moore said Ottawa is keeping pressure on American officials to ensure Mr. Khadr is treated humanely.


© National Post 2005
http://www.canada.com/national/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=63130eaa-5e3b-464b-896e-2e648595fc63

Catwoman
06-20-2005, 03:16 PM
If I have read correctly, the pyschatrists never interviewed Khadr directly.
I don't buy it.

Casey
11-08-2005, 03:31 PM
Khadr charged with conspiracy, murder

Tuesday, November 08, 2005


TORONTO -- The U.S. military announced Monday it has filed criminal charges against the only Canadian detainee held at Guantanamo Bay.
Omar Khadr, 19, who was captured following a firefight in Afghanistan, will be tried for conspiracy, murder, attempted murder and aiding the enemy.

He was one of five terror suspects whose charges were unveiled by the Pentagon on Monday, but the only one with western citizenship.

According to the indictment, Khadr's father, Ahmed Said Khadr, was a "senior member" of al-Qaida who used his Toronto charity, Health and Education Projects International, to finance terrorist training camps.

While travelling with his father, the young Khadr met Osama bin Laden, his deputy Ayman Al Zawahiri and his late military chief Mohamed Atef, it says.

In June 2002, the Canadian youth received one month of "one-on-one" training from a man named Abu Haddi, it says, adding the instruction was arranged by his father.

The course "consisted of training in the use of rocket-propelled grenades, rifles, pistols, hand grenades and explosives," the indictment says.

He did further training on landmines in July, and then joined a group of al-Qaida operatives who were planning attacks against U.S. forces in Afghanistan, it alleges.

When Afghan and U.S. troops approached the compound where Khadr was holed up on July 27, 2002, a lengthy gunbattle erupted and two Afghan and one U.S. soldier were killed.
The indictment accused Khadr of throwing the hand grenade that killed a U.S. medic, Sgt. First Class Christopher Speer, and indicates he will be tried by military commission.
Khadr was 15 years old at the time. He was shot and then detained, first in Afghanistan and later at Guantanamo.

Although the Khadrs have long been accused of involvement in terrorism, the charges are the first filed against a member of the self-described Canadian "al-Qaida family."

But they may not be the last. Khadr's sister Zaynab, who lives in Toronto, and eldest brother Abdullah, currently held in Pakistan, are still under RCMP investigation.

Following the death of the family patriarch, who was killed in October 2003 during a shoot-out with Pakistani soldiers, the family returned to Toronto, causing outrage among Canadians.
So far only nine of the roughly 500 detainees at Guantanamo Bay have been charged. Also charged Monday were two Saudis, an Algerian and an Ethiopian.

© CanWest News Service 2005

http://www.canada.com/reddeer/story.html?id=e47f6559-8e43-480e-8753-33a59917435a

Casey
11-09-2005, 08:35 AM
B C . C A N e w s - F u l l S t o r y :
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Ottawa accused of not helping Canadian held at Guantanamo
Last Updated Tue, 08 Nov 2005 20:24:49 EST
CBC News

Omar Khadr's mother and members of his legal team say the 19-year-old Canadian is facing a "sham" trial at the hands of the U.S. military and that the Canadian government isn't helping.

"The Americans are gods now," said Maha Elsamnah, Khadr's mother. "They make the law. Nobody can tell them anything."

Elsamnah says Ottawa is doing nothing for her son who is accused of murder, attempted murder and aiding the enemy.

Khadr was the only survivor of a strike on a suspected al-Qaeda compound in Afghanistan three years ago. He is charged with killing U.S. Sgt. Christopher Speer on July 7, 2002 when he allegedly threw a grenade at him during the raid.

The charges call Khadr an "unprivileged belligerent," meaning someone not authorized under international law to fight a war. If convicted he may face execution.

Omar is the son of the late Ahmed Khadr, an Egyptian-born Canadian who was close to Osama bin Laden. Ahmed Khadr died in a shootout with the Pakistani military in 2003.

The military intends to try Khadr in a brand new Guantanamo Bay tribunal room, where he'll be judged by a military commission, not a court.
The decision means that although Khadr is presumed innocent unless proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, he is not entitled to be present at all times during his trial or to know the evidence against him.
Muneer Ahmad, co-counsel for Omar Khadr, says the process is unfair. "We are talking about a sham process, which could result in the death penalty against someone who was 15 at the time of the conduct he is alleged to have committed."

Sunil Ram, a professor at the West Virginia Military University, says he believes the young Khadr is a "terrorist." But, says Ram, Khadr's fate hangs on the personal bias of the officers chosen for the panel. "If they tend to be right-wing and endorse Bush's war on terror, you could end up with a kangaroo court."

Dan McTeague, the parliamentary secretary to the minister of foreign affairs, is rejecting claims that Canada is doing nothing to help Khadr.
McTeague says the government has asked the U.S. for assurance that Khadr won't face the death penalty if he is convicted and that he be allowed access to the lawyer of his choice.

'It's going to be a very long process but, at a minimum, we want to make sure the rule of law is respected," said McTeague.

Nathan Whitling, who is also part of Khadr's legal team, said in Edmonton on Tuesday that there are more questions about this case than answers.
"You know what do we do about the fact that he's been held in these deplorable conditions for three years. And what do we do about the fact that its been in clear violation of international law, and his own human rights."

Whitling says Khadr has been severely mistreated and tortured since his capture and that his Canadian legal team hasn't been allowed to see their client.

Copyright ©2005 Canadian Broadcasting Corporation - All Rights Reserved

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/11/08/omarkhadr051108.html

Solo
11-09-2005, 08:42 AM
Hey, guess he is having the same problems as the Australian David Hicks. Their lawyers even speak the same language.

Funny about that. :rolleyes:

Vancouver
11-09-2005, 09:41 AM
Khadr (actually Kadhr) also has a sister who is as backward and belligerent as the rest of that Egyptian clan. Abdelrachman, at the right, is one of Khadr's brothers, the one who was captured and then turned by the CIA to spy on other inmates at Gitmo. The father Ahmed was wanted in Egypt until he got killed in a shootout in Pakistan. A great bunch.

Casey
12-18-2005, 11:32 AM
Son of Accused al-Qaida Financier Arrested

Sunday December 18, 2005 8:16 AM


TORONTO (AP) - Royal Canadian Mounted Police said they have arrested the eldest son of an accused al-Qaida financier on a warrant issued by the United States.

RCMP spokeswoman Corporal Michele Paradis said the warrant for Abdullah Khadr was issued by the U.S. Department of Justice. He was arrested on Saturday and is being held in a Toronto jail.

Paradis would not say what the charges are. But the suspect's lawyer, Dennis Edney, told the Globe and Mail.com that his client faces extradition to the U.S. for allegedly planning to kill U.S. soldiers abroad.

Calls to Edney's office were not immediately returned.

Khadr, a 23-year-old, who had just returned to Canada after being detained for more than a year in Pakistan, was arrested at his family's apartment in Toronto, Edney was quoted as saying.

Khadr is the eldest son of Egyptian-born Canadian Ahmed Said Khadr, an accused al-Qaida financier who was killed in a battle with Pakistani forces in 2003.

Each of the four siblings in the family has separately been jailed and accused of links to terrorism.

Khadr denies his family was ever involved with al-Qaida.

While admitting he attended the a training camp in Afghanistan for two weeks, he said it was when he was 13, and it did not have ties to terrorism.

He had been held in Pakistan since Oct. 12, 2004, after Pakistani intelligence officers picked him up in a car in Islamabad.

In a documentary by the Canadian Broadcasting Corp., one of Khadr's brothers, Abdurahman Khadr, acknowledged his Egyptian-born father, Ahmed Said Khadr, and some of his brothers fought for al-Qaida and even stayed with Osama bin Laden.

The elder Khadr was killed in Pakistan in 2003 when a Pakistani Cobra helicopter shelled the house where he was staying with senior al-Qaida operatives.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-5487728,00.html

Vancouver
12-25-2005, 09:41 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/americas/12/19/canada.alqaeda.ap/
Excerpt:
In an affidavit submitted to the Superior Court of Justice in Toronto, where Abdullah Khadr appeared at a preliminary hearing, Royal Canadian Mounted Police Sgt. Konrad Shourie said Khadr admitted his ties to senior al Qaeda members. Shourie said Khadr confessed to having purchased guns and rocket launchers and his role in a plot to assassinate the Pakistani prime minister.

Vancouver
12-29-2005, 07:44 PM
Abdullah Khadr has been denied bail.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20051223.wkhadr1223/BNStory/National/
Excerpts:
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Evidence presented at his bail hearing this week suggests Abdullah Khadr has "high level links to al-Qaeda, a terrorist organization without scruples," Ontario Superior Court Justice Anne Molloy said in denying him bail.
The judge also cited evidence that Mr. Khadr considers al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden "a saint."
"That organization could well assist him in escaping this jurisdiction," said Judge Molloy.
"This is not a person I would trust to abide by any restrictions I would impose upon his release." ...
During closing arguments, the prosecution attacked the defence position that Mr. Khadr has no money, passport, or anywhere to go other than the family's Toronto home.
"Mr. Khadr's home is in Pakistan," said Mr. Parker. "Abdullah's relationship to Canada consists of visits."
Judge Molloy, in delivering her decision, cited evidence that Mr. Khadr has access to a fake passport.
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Vancouver
08-30-2006, 08:10 PM
Canadian Abdurrahman Khadr (really Kadhr) has again been denied a passport despite some wishful thinking on the part of Mr. Justice Michael Phelan. Where would Khadr travel anyway? What country would let him in?
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060830.wkhadr30/BNStory/National/home

Casey
11-04-2006, 10:17 AM
'I only buy and sell weapons for al-Qaeda'
COLIN FREEZE

Asked by the Mounties if he were part of al-Qaeda, Abdullah Khadr responded, "No, I only buy and sell weapons for al-Qaeda."

Over the course of five interviews with the RCMP last year, the 25-year-old terrorism suspect admitted that he "knows everybody" in al-Qaeda and ran guns for the organization to the Pakistan-Afghanistan border. But he also insisted that if any terrorist "had anything planned for Canada, I'd be the first one to stop it."

The Crown this week released two volumes of interviews Mr. Khadr gave to the RCMP between the time he was detained in Pakistan in 2005 and was released to Canada last year. Days after he landed in Toronto, the U.S. government had him arrested and launched an extradition case against him.

Mr. Khadr, a Canadian citizen who grew up in Afghanistan, seems to have been forthcoming during long questioning sessions with police. His lawyers suggest, however, all of the testimony could be tainted by torture he said he suffered in Pakistan.

Mr. Khadr's statements give new insights into al-Qaeda and figures who have long been of interest to investigators, primarily himself and his family.

"We are one of the most famous families in Afghanistan," he proudly told his interviewers.

Abdullah Khadr: The young man told the RCMP how his father enlisted him in an Afghan training camp when he was just 14. He learned how to fire weapons and explode bombs. Mr. Khadr said he began procuring weapons for al-Qaeda after the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan. He said he bought guns and missile launchers and had a role in using a global-positioning-system unit to map co-ordinates for fighters who were later arrested for trying to kill Pakistan's Prime Minister in a missile attack. But he said he was an arms supplier, not a fighter. "I never, like, entered a battlefield."

His late father, Ahmed Said Khadr: Abdullah Khadr said his father was a proud man who founded Canadian Muslim student unions, went to Afghanistan to help orphans and became a long-time intimate of Osama bin Laden. Following the 2001 U.S. invasion, the al-Qaeda leadership put the family patriarch in charge of a group of Arab resistance fighters in Logar region of Afghanistan, Abdullah Khadr said. The Pakistani army killed Ahmed Said Khadr in 2003. "My father knows everybody in the [al-Qaeda] Top 10," he said at one point. But he insisted no funds from his father's charity work ever made their way to al-Qaeda.

His younger brother Omar: The teenager has been held in Guantanamo Bay since U.S. forces shot him in a 2002 battle in Afghanistan, during which Omar lobbed a grenade that killed a soldier. Abdullah said his brother was never supposed to have been a fighter. He just disappeared one day after his father sent him toward the front lines. "My father said Omar is translating."

His sister Zaynab: The Mounties have suggested they recovered al-Qaeda propaganda videos from her computer hard drive, but Abdullah insisted his sister is no terrorist. She's "patriotic," he said. "But I doubt she can do anything other than talk."

Osama bin Laden: The al-Qaeda leader told the Khadr family to "be happy, something is coming" prior to the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, Abdullah said.

Amer El-Maati: This Canadian citizen, sought by the FBI as a terrorist, worked as a carpet salesmen after al-Qaeda refused to give him a pension, according to Abdullah. He said he last saw the man fighting in Afghanistan-Pakistan border regions in 2001. "But he can't do much due to a brain injury," Abdullah Khadr said. "He was in a car accident in 1992. He cannot walk for long hours."

Amer El-Maati's brother, Ahmed, a truck driver jailed in the Middle East after being followed by the RCMP, is suing Ottawa for being complicit in his overseas torture.

The Hindy family: The RCMP questioned Abdullah Khadr about Aly Hindy, a controversial Toronto imam and long-time Khadr family friend. Abdullah Khadr recalled a late-1990s visit that the imam's son Ibrahim made to Afghanistan.

"He came, he stayed one month in the Musab al-Surri camp, maybe one week less than a month." He said the teenager learned about weapons, including firing Kalshnikovs.

Mahmoud Jaballah: Abdullah Khadr said he knew him as "Abu Ahmed," and as an "Arabic tutor in Peshawar for one week."

"But to my knowledge he never fought on the front line."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20061103.KHADRTIES03/TPStory/National

Casey
11-04-2006, 10:18 AM
Khadr helped al-Qaeda with GPS
Court files detail his role in plot to kill Pakistan's PM

Abdullah Khadr used a global positioning system to measure the distance between the home of the Pakistani Prime Minister and a graveyard from where a missile attack was to be staged by al-Qaeda operatives, according to newly filed court documents.

Mr. Khadr, the eldest son in a Toronto family that has been friends with Osama bin Laden, detailed his role in a bold assassination plot during a videotaped interview with the RCMP.

"They asked me to measure the distance between some graveyard and a house," he said of a request by friends of his father's in Pakistan, according to the transcript of an interview filed this week in an Ontario court by the Department of Justice.

The other men did not know how to use the GPS device, Mr. Khadr said, but he read the manual and figured out what to do.

"That's kind of odd, that someone would say, 'Here's a GPS, measure the distance,' " said RCMP Sergeant Konrad Shourie, questioning Mr. Khadr in December, 2005, when he returned to Canada after more than a year of imprisonment in Pakistan.

"You do it for a friend," Mr. Khadr said.

"What would that, in your experience, normally mean," asked Sgt. Shourie of the measurement.

"They wanted to fire some missiles," Mr. Khadr replied.

Mr. Khadr said he thought the home in question was the residence of Shaukat Aziz, who was appointed Prime Minister of Pakistan in the summer of 2004.

Mr. Khadr learned the other men involved were later arrested, captured by Pakistani police with grenades and Kalashnikov rifles near the site, he said.

Mr. Khadr is fighting extradition to the United States, where he faces terrorism charges.

Mr. Khadr says he was tortured and abused during the more than 14 months he was in prison in Pakistan without being charged, and was forced to admit to things he did not do.

The interview on Dec. 2, 2005, however, was conducted in Canada and Mr. Khadr agrees repeatedly in the transcript that he is speaking to the RCMP of his own free will.

Dennis Edney, a lawyer representing Mr. Khadr, said all of his client's statements have been tainted by torture.

"The people interrogating him in Canada are the same people who were interrogating him in Pakistan where he was being tortured," Mr. Edney said last night.

"He has learned over his long period of detention and interrogation by Pakistani intelligence, the FBI, CSIS, RCMP, CIA to give them the answers they want to hear. The problem we have with evidence derived by torture is we don't know the truth of it."

During the more than two hours that Mr. Khadr chatted with Sgt. Shourie in Canada, he spoke of his ability to make bombs, his ties to militant fighters and plans to sell Russian-made surface-to-air missiles.

Mr. Khadr says he was offered a supply of Russian-made Igla anti-aircraft missiles at $1,000 each. The man came to him because he knew he had bought weapons in the past, he said.

"I said, 'If you bring them for a thousand dollars, I will sell them for five and give you two and a half thousand,'" he said, according to the transcript.

Adrian Humphreys, National Post
Published: Thursday, November 02, 2006
He said he would sell them "to al-Qaeda."

What would they do with the missiles, Mr. Khadr was asked.

"Shoot airplanes. They don't buy anti-aircraft missiles to shoot birds. They shoot airplanes," he said, according to the transcript.

Mr. Khadr said he received basic weapons training at a camp in Afghanistan in the mid-1990s.

"I know how to connect a fuse with the, with some C-4 or whatever.... If I have a detonator and some explosives material, I can put them together and make them explode," he said.

He spent about five months at the Khalden camp, when he was in his teens, where he learned to handle machine guns and rocket launchers and how to throw grenades and make bombs.

It is a course, he said, for beginners: "This is like A, B, C."

If one wanted to learn more, one arranged to go to an al-Qaeda training camp, he said. He added that was a path he did not take.

Mr. Khadr was born in Canada in 1981 and moved to Pakistan at the age of three with his family.

He is the eldest son of Ahmed Said Khadr, an Egyptian-born Canadian who was named by officials as an al-Qaeda financier and personal friend of bin Laden.

Mr. Khadr's younger brother, Omar, is the only Canadian being held as an "enemy combatant" at Guantanamo Bay, after a battle in Afghanistan left one U.S. soldier dead and another injured.

The Khadr family has been at the centre of a storm of controversy over their sympathies and ties to al-Qaeda. A family member once described the clan as an "al-Qaeda family."

"One of the problems I have [in this case] is he is a Khadr," Mr. Edney said. "If he was a Smith or an Arar, I'd have a lot better hearing."

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=4a83cb67-444f-4348-811f-cd3303b56ded&k=1213