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candypreet
05-16-2005, 09:34 AM
'Osama to prove his presence soon'
Source: IANS. Image Source: IS


London, May 16: International terrorist Osama bin Laden and his Taliban associate Mullah Omar are alive, and a new cassette from the Al Qaeda leader is expected soon to prove his presence, according to a distinguished Pakistani journalist.
http://autofeed.msn.co.in/pandorav3/output/News/59169ad3-4f9a-4c02-8ca2-df0f93055bdd_1.jpg"Both Osama and Mullah Omar are alive. There is no evidence to suggest that Osama bin Laden is dead, and there is no doubt about the presence of Mullah Omar as he regularly sends audio cassettes and letters," journalist Rahimullah Yuzufsai was quoted as saying Monday.

Yusufzai, one of the few journalists to have met Osama in hiding, was interviewed by the BBC's Hindi-language service.

Yusufzai said both Osama and Mullah Omar are in the Afghan region but that Osama was finding the going "quite difficult".

"Mullah Omar has the advantage of being an Afghan, he knows the Pashto language and the world knows little about his appearance as very few of his photographs have been circulated.
"He is living in his country, within his own tribe and my knowledge is he does not have a major problem. There are active Taliban elements that would defend him at any cost. It is easy for him to be in the mountainous terrain of Afghanistan, and I think he does not have a problem in crossing over to Pakistan also."

In contrast, Osama had several handicaps, but also enjoyed "solid support", the journalist, who reports for the Pakistani daily The News and several western media organisations, said.

"He does not know either Pashto or Urdu. He merely speaks Arabic. Americans have kept a big reward on his head. Therefore his movements are restricted and difficult as compared to Mullah Omar, as he does not belong to the region.

"However, he does prove his presence by sending out regular video or audio cassettes either warning America of fresh attacks or praising Muslim militants. The last one was sent out in October, and we are expecting a fresh video or audio cassette soon now," Yusufzai, a noted Afghan affairs expert, said.

"It would not have been possible for Osama to remain elusive for such a long period without solid support, as Americans dug out (Iraqi dictator) Saddam Hussain in eight months."


http://autofeed.msn.co.in/pandorav3/output/News/59169ad3-4f9a-4c02-8ca2-df0f93055bdd.aspx

Screw Hollywood
05-16-2005, 10:04 AM
Yes, he'll be appearing every thursday at the Duck Room, warming up for Elvis and Jim Morrison.

candypreet
05-16-2005, 11:19 AM
Yes, he'll be appearing every thursday at the Duck Room, warming up for Elvis and Jim Morrison.

That should be interesting

Ponder
05-16-2005, 11:29 AM
Yes, he'll be appearing every thursday at the Duck Room, warming up for Elvis and Jim Morrison.

What's the "Duck Room"?

pixikill
05-16-2005, 11:40 AM
if you wanna find obl, take out credit cards in his name, and run up the bills. visa and amex will find him!
seriously, how hard can it be? hes meant to be on dialasis, and sending videos and tapes....just look for the cave with the extention lead.

Shipwrx
05-16-2005, 11:48 AM
Um Black Flag just uploaded a series of video's in the video section titled Black Flag...... any relation ??

Cali/Yank
05-16-2005, 12:24 PM
Cassettes only three payments of $29.99 and you'll get the complete compolation of Bins greatest love songs, Like... "I left my heart in Tora Bora "or that easliy remembered toon, "When it's spring time in Miami...the boys all were speedo's" Buy now!!

death2aq
05-16-2005, 12:44 PM
Why doesn't he be a man, and come out and fight?

Bman
05-16-2005, 12:46 PM
Why doesn't he be a man, and come out and fight?


Why doesn't Bush or Condi Rice??

Condi was just in Iraq.. I didn't see her driving any tanks , though

Bman

Snakeyes2
05-16-2005, 12:52 PM
Why doesn't he be a man, and come out and fight?


Because he is not an idiot.

Screw Hollywood
05-16-2005, 02:10 PM
What's the "Duck Room"?
Otherwise known as a cave in Tora Bora, under bombardment?

THX1138
05-16-2005, 07:53 PM
'Osama to prove his presence soon'

This could be very much like going into a public restroom and having the air so bad you can hardly breath.

You saw nothing, heard nothing, yet you know someone was there and recently...

Lotimer
05-16-2005, 07:54 PM
Of course he's still alive. The Pakistani government is the one keeping him fed and giving medical attention when needed.

SEVIL DOG
05-16-2005, 07:58 PM
Osama will get his ass capped soon enough, when he is more valuable dead then alive. Or he is already dead, Bush has not anounce yet. :mad_08:

Daniel LaRusso
05-16-2005, 10:29 PM
Of course he's still alive. The Pakistani government is the one keeping him fed and giving medical attention when needed.

Any sort of proof to back this up?

jimb
05-16-2005, 11:17 PM
'Osama to prove his presence soon'
Source: IANS. Image Source: IS


London, May 16: International terrorist Osama bin Laden and his Taliban associate Mullah Omar are alive, and a new cassette from the Al Qaeda leader is expected soon to prove his presence, according to a distinguished Pakistani journalist.
http://autofeed.msn.co.in/pandorav3/output/News/59169ad3-4f9a-4c02-8ca2-df0f93055bdd_1.jpg"Both Osama and Mullah Omar are alive. There is no evidence to suggest that Osama bin Laden is dead, and there is no doubt about the presence of Mullah Omar as he regularly sends audio cassettes and letters," journalist Rahimullah Yuzufsai was quoted as saying Monday.

Yusufzai, one of the few journalists to have met Osama in hiding, was interviewed by the BBC's Hindi-language service.

Yusufzai said both Osama and Mullah Omar are in the Afghan region but that Osama was finding the going "quite difficult".

"Mullah Omar has the advantage of being an Afghan, he knows the Pashto language and the world knows little about his appearance as very few of his photographs have been circulated.
"He is living in his country, within his own tribe and my knowledge is he does not have a major problem. There are active Taliban elements that would defend him at any cost. It is easy for him to be in the mountainous terrain of Afghanistan, and I think he does not have a problem in crossing over to Pakistan also."

In contrast, Osama had several handicaps, but also enjoyed "solid support", the journalist, who reports for the Pakistani daily The News and several western media organisations, said.

"He does not know either Pashto or Urdu. He merely speaks Arabic. Americans have kept a big reward on his head. Therefore his movements are restricted and difficult as compared to Mullah Omar, as he does not belong to the region.

"However, he does prove his presence by sending out regular video or audio cassettes either warning America of fresh attacks or praising Muslim militants. The last one was sent out in October, and we are expecting a fresh video or audio cassette soon now," Yusufzai, a noted Afghan affairs expert, said.

"It would not have been possible for Osama to remain elusive for such a long period without solid support, as Americans dug out (Iraqi dictator) Saddam Hussain in eight months."


http://autofeed.msn.co.in/pandorav3/output/News/59169ad3-4f9a-4c02-8ca2-df0f93055bdd.aspx

OBL is dead to the world for he is not heard from.

1001
05-23-2005, 02:45 PM
'Osama to prove his presence soon'
Source: IANS. Image Source: IS


London, May 16: International terrorist Osama bin Laden and his Taliban associate Mullah Omar are alive, and a new cassette from the Al Qaeda leader is expected soon to prove his presence, according to a distinguished Pakistani journalist.
http://autofeed.msn.co.in/pandorav3/output/News/59169ad3-4f9a-4c02-8ca2-df0f93055bdd_1.jpg"Both Osama and Mullah Omar are alive. There is no evidence to suggest that Osama bin Laden is dead, and there is no doubt about the presence of Mullah Omar as he regularly sends audio cassettes and letters," journalist Rahimullah Yuzufsai was quoted as saying Monday.

Yusufzai, one of the few journalists to have met Osama in hiding, was interviewed by the BBC's Hindi-language service.

Yusufzai said both Osama and Mullah Omar are in the Afghan region but that Osama was finding the going "quite difficult".

"Mullah Omar has the advantage of being an Afghan, he knows the Pashto language and the world knows little about his appearance as very few of his photographs have been circulated.
"He is living in his country, within his own tribe and my knowledge is he does not have a major problem. There are active Taliban elements that would defend him at any cost. It is easy for him to be in the mountainous terrain of Afghanistan, and I think he does not have a problem in crossing over to Pakistan also."

In contrast, Osama had several handicaps, but also enjoyed "solid support", the journalist, who reports for the Pakistani daily The News and several western media organisations, said.

"He does not know either Pashto or Urdu. He merely speaks Arabic. Americans have kept a big reward on his head. Therefore his movements are restricted and difficult as compared to Mullah Omar, as he does not belong to the region.

"However, he does prove his presence by sending out regular video or audio cassettes either warning America of fresh attacks or praising Muslim militants. The last one was sent out in October, and we are expecting a fresh video or audio cassette soon now," Yusufzai, a noted Afghan affairs expert, said.

"It would not have been possible for Osama to remain elusive for such a long period without solid support, as Americans dug out (Iraqi dictator) Saddam Hussain in eight months."


http://autofeed.msn.co.in/pandorav3/output/News/59169ad3-4f9a-4c02-8ca2-df0f93055bdd.aspx

:happy_10:

Mudshark
05-23-2005, 03:02 PM
Why doesn't he be a man, and come out and fight?

For the same reason Mr & Mrs Bush haven't taken any romantic, night-time strolls around Sadr City.

Sardonic
05-23-2005, 03:33 PM
Just like Kim Jong Il, his name and his legend far exceeds his deeds as a man or his potential as a man.

We haven't heard from either of these characters in a while, but they remain powerful spectres.

Why we don't just drop a US$100,000,000 reward on his head is beyond me. Make it alluring enough so that someone wants to turn traitor.

I'm sure every American in the US wouldn't mind paying a third of a cent for his capture.

Scutter
05-23-2005, 03:33 PM
For the same reason Mr & Mrs Bush haven't taken any romantic, night-time strolls around Sadr City.


Niether does OBL, but at least you can turn on the news and find where W or Laura is. Osama is silent for one of two reasons, he is either DEAD, or AFRAID (and consumed with self preservation). If the latter is true he might as well be dead, not much differance between the two, the silence is still the same. Except the latter also carries the title COWARD. Be proud Muslim Soldiers, inspite of all your ineffectiveness, you can rest assured in the fact that you do hide well. But so does a garden slug.

OldGit
05-23-2005, 03:47 PM
Why doesn't he be a man, and come out and fight?

You've been watching too many old cowboy films,

'Yeah - a man's gotta do, what a man's gotta do...'

Fucking hilarious shit - and you've taken it right on board haven't you - just like 'Lassie', and 'Little House On the Prairie', and 'The Waltons'?

'Good night Johnboy'.

'Night gramps.'

'Night Ellen'......


LOL - ROFLMAO

1001
05-23-2005, 03:47 PM
Niether does OBL, but at least you can turn on the news and find where W or Laura is. Osama is silent for one of two reasons, he is either DEAD, or AFRAID (and consumed with self preservation). If the latter is true he might as well be dead, not much differance between the two, the silence is still the same. Except the latter also carries the title COWARD. Be proud Muslim Soldiers, inspite of all your ineffectiveness, you can rest assured in the fact that you do hide well. But so does a garden slug.

Say what you want, believe what you want.

BUT Osama is THE islamic HERO!

If he is hiding (for good reason), if he is quiet or not...

OldGit
05-23-2005, 03:57 PM
Niether does OBL, but at least you can turn on the news and find where W or Laura is. Osama is silent for one of two reasons, he is either DEAD, or AFRAID (and consumed with self preservation). If the latter is true he might as well be dead, not much differance between the two, the silence is still the same. Except the latter also carries the title COWARD. Be proud Muslim Soldiers, inspite of all your ineffectiveness, you can rest assured in the fact that you do hide well. But so does a garden slug.

I'd like to see Osamma's skin on a board, but....

You have entirely failed to realise that this man has made fools of your administration. Every day that he avoids capture - be he dead or alive, he rubs the nose of your leaders in the shit. Can't you see that? Well, that's a stupid question - clearly you can't.

Sardonic
05-23-2005, 03:58 PM
Say what you want, believe what you want.

BUT Osama is THE islamic HERO!

If he is hiding (for good reason), if he is quiet or not...


Really? Call me crazy, but I've never regarded anyone who kills others as a hero. Even those who kill bad people. Maybe sometimes it has to be done, but they're no heroes.

Especially innocents. Women and children. NOT heroes.

involved
05-23-2005, 05:26 PM
I thought he was Elvis...now I am confused. :add09:
Yes, he'll be appearing every thursday at the Duck Room, warming up for Elvis and Jim Morrison.

involved
05-23-2005, 05:27 PM
He's working for dubya...
Say what you want, believe what you want.

BUT Osama is THE islamic HERO!

If he is hiding (for good reason), if he is quiet or not...

Rightwingnut
05-23-2005, 05:39 PM
He's working for dubya...

So is God.

God
05-23-2005, 05:44 PM
So is God.

No I'm not.

involved
05-23-2005, 06:33 PM
lol...
No I'm not.

Scutter
05-23-2005, 06:40 PM
Say what you want, believe what you want.

BUT Osama is THE islamic HERO!

If he is hiding (for good reason), if he is quiet or not...


If that "man" who hides like WO-MAN is your hero, then that is your shame to live with. His "good reason" for hiding , is he is afraid for his life just as any sane being would be. I would think that "martyrdom" would be just as great an honor for the shifty-sheik as it would for your so-called martyrs (you know, the teenagers that muslims send to kill unsuspecting people with stealth, because of their weakness to face them face to face) Yes, Martyrdom is fine as long as it ain't OLB's sorry ass in the suicide vest.


TO, I am not a supporter of Bush, (you think I'm making fun of Clinton when I say I'm a "compassionate-sadist"?) I was against going into Iraq, and definitely against most of the republican financial policies. Your own words, "be he dead or alive" is the essence of what I was saying, NOT MUCH DIFFERANCE. You do not know if he is dead or alive, for sure. What a leader! :rolleyes: What an enemy, for that matter, spoiled rich brat bites off way more than he can chew and runs into hiding while hundreds of thousands die fighting the fight that he is not willing to fight himself. What a PUSSY. I fail to see how he is making fools of "my administration" everyday that he is not caught, though. The last concrete evidence that he was alive was in the last week of december 2001. The fortress of caves known as tora bora crumbled quite easily under the air assault. It is said that the devistation was so complete that no one will ever know for sure who all died there. So who is the fool? Me thinks it is 1001, for he has been admiring a dead man for three years.

involved
05-23-2005, 07:03 PM
Bin Laden denies being behind attacks
Associated Press
Last Updated: Sept. 16, 2001.
:add09:


Osama Bin Laden, the exiled Saudi dissident, is seen on this layout for an FBI poster after he was placed on the FBI's Ten Most Wanted list in June 1999, in connection with the bombings of the U.S. Embassies in Tanzania and Kenya. CLICK to read.

Dubai, United Arab Emirates - Osama bin Laden, the prime suspect, issued a statement Sunday denying that he was behind last week's terror attacks on the United States.

"I stress that I have not carried out this act, which appears to have been carried out by individuals with their own motivation," said the statement, broadcast by Qatar's Al-Jazeera satellite channel.

In the statement, read out by an Al-Jazeera announcer, bin Laden said that he was used to the United States accusing him every time "its many enemies strike at it."

Bin Laden, a Saudi exile who has lived in Afghanistan since 1996, has said on at least one other occasion that he wasn't behind the attacks. Jamal Ismail, a Palestinian journalist, has said a bin Laden aide called him after Tuesday's attack to say bin Laden denied being involved but "thanked almighty Allah and bowed before him when he heard this news."

Bin Laden has often granted interviews to Al-Jazeera, known in the Arab world for its wide reach and its independent and aggressive editorial policies. He also gives Al-Jazeera videos when he has a message to relay to the world, such as a tape early this year in which he was shown reciting an ode to Jerusalem and decrying Israel's presence in the city, which is holy to Jews, Christians and Muslims.

In Sunday's statement, which was signed "Sheik Osama bin Laden," bin Laden said that he had pledged to the leader of Afghanistan, Mullah Mohammed Omar, to abide by the country's laws, and Omar "doesn't allow those types of acts."

President Bush has said that bin Laden is the prime suspect in the attacks in which hijackers battered passenger planes into the two towers of New York's World Trade Center and a side of the Pentagon. A fourth hijacked plane crashed into the ground in Pennsylvania.

Bin Laden has been indicted by the United States for the 1998 bombings of the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. Days after the bombings, the United States fired dozens of Tomahawk cruise missiles on eastern Afghanistan in an attempt to kill him.

Meanwhile, newspapers in Pakistan reported receiving an e-mail from a man purporting to be bin Laden. The message railed against the United States and said killing Americans and "their allies, civilian and military" was the duty of every Muslim.

There was no way to prove the e-mail came from bin Laden. The Taliban deny bin Laden has access to any communications.


http://www.jsonline.com/news/nat/sep01/binladen-denial.asp

Scutter
05-23-2005, 07:38 PM
http://www.welfarestate.com/binladen/funeral/


Prove them wrong

Mudshark
05-24-2005, 01:13 PM
Niether does OBL, but at least you can turn on the news and find where W or Laura is. Osama is silent for one of two reasons, he is either DEAD, or AFRAID (and consumed with self preservation). If the latter is true he might as well be dead, not much differance between the two, the silence is still the same. Except the latter also carries the title COWARD. Be proud Muslim Soldiers, inspite of all your ineffectiveness, you can rest assured in the fact that you do hide well. But so does a garden slug.

If you had even half a brain you'd be dangerous...

Do you really expect OBL to stand out in the open and say "here I am, come and get me"? You might be stupid enough to do it but OBL knows exactly what would happen. Can you work it out?

Oh, we know were Bush is... at all times... surrounded by probably the heaviest security of any person on the planet... Secret Service, armoured cars, circling helicopters, fighter jets patrolling the skies... that's real courage, eh?

1001
05-24-2005, 03:06 PM
If you had even half a brain you'd be dangerous...

Do you really expect OBL to stand out in the open and say "here I am, come and get me"? You might be stupid enough to do it but OBL knows exactly what would happen. Can you work it out?

Oh, we know were Bush is... at all times... surrounded by probably the heaviest security of any person on the planet... Secret Service, armoured cars, circling helicopters, fighter jets patrolling the skies... that's real courage, eh?

:cool:

Ponder
05-24-2005, 03:25 PM
Oh, we know were Bush is... at all times... surrounded by probably the heaviest security of any person on the planet... Secret Service, armoured cars, circling helicopters, fighter jets patrolling the skies... that's real courage, eh?

I'd bet Osama's security detail is pretty well compensated. It has been reported that the tribal leaders have been paid quite handsomely to keep Osama well hidden. I'd be willing to bet that several within Pakistan's Intelligence Services have been paid as well.

Lotimer
05-24-2005, 03:25 PM
Pakistan's Intelligence Services


Pakistan... the country that we're selling F16s to. Pakistan, a place where freedom is NOT on the march, especially for women.

Alli
05-24-2005, 03:28 PM
Pakistan... the country that we're selling F16s to. Pakistan, a place where freedom is NOT on the march, especially for women.
Why don't you go on over, and help them! Form your own "Free pakistani women!!" mission.

Lotimer
05-24-2005, 03:31 PM
Why don't you go on over, and help them! Form your own "Free pakistani women!!" mission.
I thought the conservatives were so concerned about women's rights in the mideast? OH WAIT, only when it involves bombing a nation to pieces to gain control over a resource (oil). Do you only care for Afghan and Iraqi women but not care about Pakistani women because Bush condones the dictatorship there?

Alli
05-24-2005, 03:34 PM
I thought the conservatives were so concerned about women's rights in the mideast? OH WAIT, only when it involves bombing a nation to pieces to gain control over a resource (oil). Do you only care for Afghan and Iraqi women but not care about Pakistani women because Bush condones the dictatorship there?
Who said I cared about any of these people? Please link to the post(s). I'll wait.

Alli
05-24-2005, 03:34 PM
I thought the conservatives were so concerned about women's rights in the mideast? ?
and I thought it was the moonbats.

Lotimer
05-24-2005, 03:37 PM
Who said I cared about any of these people? Please link to the post(s). I'll wait.


So you are a Bush supporter, correct?

And you do not care about the rights of women in the mideast, correct?

Well, atleast you're being true then, most conservatives act like they give a shit just as a reason to advance Bush's agenda.

Ponder
05-24-2005, 03:38 PM
Pakistan... the country that we're selling F16s to. Pakistan, a place where freedom is NOT on the march, especially for women.

Are you confused? WTF does this have to do with OBL? There are numerous threads about Pakistan.

Alli
05-24-2005, 03:39 PM
So you are a Bush supporter, correct?
This changes on a day-to-day basis, in all honesty


And you do not care about the rights of women in the mideast, correct?
By 'rights' do you mean right to vote, etc? Or right not to be raped if you show a piece of hair?

still waiting for the quote btw.

OldGit
05-24-2005, 03:43 PM
I'd bet Osama's security detail is pretty well compensated. It has been reported that the tribal leaders have been paid quite handsomely to keep Osama well hidden. I'd be willing to bet that several within Pakistan's Intelligence Services have been paid as well.

I think you're right.

OldGit
05-24-2005, 03:54 PM
TO, I am not a supporter of Bush, (you think I'm making fun of Clinton when I say I'm a "compassionate-sadist"?) I was against going into Iraq, and definitely against most of the republican financial policies. Your own words, "be he dead or alive" is the essence of what I was saying, NOT MUCH DIFFERANCE. You do not know if he is dead or alive, for sure. What a leader! :rolleyes: What an enemy, for that matter, spoiled rich brat bites off way more than he can chew and runs into hiding while hundreds of thousands die fighting the fight that he is not willing to fight himself. What a PUSSY. I fail to see how he is making fools of "my administration" everyday that he is not caught, though. The last concrete evidence that he was alive was in the last week of december 2001. The fortress of caves known as tora bora crumbled quite easily under the air assault. It is said that the devistation was so complete that no one will ever know for sure who all died there. So who is the fool? Me thinks it is 1001, for he has been admiring a dead man for three years.

There is nothing to be admired about OBL, though I think a dispassionate view would be that he'd created the mother of all terrorist exploits four years back. That attack (those) galvanised the radicalised groups across the world. We should have united to clean them out of our countries - I mean the whole world, and it should have been police action, focus on bringing as much of the world together as we could and sharing expertese and information. The whole world was onside on September 12th 2001 - except the TALIBAN, who having been asked to cooperate, refused and left the USA no option but to invade and replace them. Most of the world was still onside - not all, but most could have been brought into a wholehearted rooting out of radical islam, but what happened? Bush and his cadre fucked the lot by going to war in a country that was nothing to do with 9/11, had disarmed and was no more threat than Cuba is.....

That's why I'm here - nothing else. I'm not a Muslim, have no interest in Islam, I'm not a communist, as I was called today, I just think that making war on a pack of lies is wrong and needs to be opposed.

candypreet
02-27-2006, 07:33 AM
reviving an old thread

kosotone
02-27-2006, 07:37 AM
reviving an old thread

Why?

candypreet
02-27-2006, 07:48 AM
Why?
coz it is an interesting read

OldGit
02-27-2006, 08:19 AM
Why?

I was just going to say that. I almost jumped into arguments over things people said nine months ago.

pixikill
02-27-2006, 09:56 AM
http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2006/02/25/cartoon_2602_gallery__470x362.jpg

Ponder
02-27-2006, 10:24 AM
Google of "Usama is in" says...

Usama is in.....

...Pakistan in a safe house near a military base
...serbia now
...a cave somewhere
...a hole awaiting his doom
...Iran
...bad taste
...Kunar
...Afghanistan
...Khost
...NO danger
...in town
...New Delhi
...China
...Iraq
...control of the Afghanistan-produced heroin industry
...the White House basement
...Saudi
...America
...Camp Guantanamo
...the green room at the same studio NASA used to flim the lunar landing
...a rathole somewhere
...Texas
...Hell
...the third cave on the left

Yes, I'm bored. :)

candypreet
02-27-2006, 10:30 AM
Google of "Usama is in" says...

Usama is in.....

...Pakistan in a safe house near a military base
...serbia now
...a cave somewhere
...a hole awaiting his doom
...Iran
...bad taste
...Kunar
...Afghanistan
...Khost
...NO danger
...in town
...New Delhi
...China
...Iraq
...control of the Afghanistan-produced heroin industry
...the White House basement
...Saudi
...America
...Camp Guantanamo
...the green room at the same studio NASA used to flim the lunar landing
...a rathole somewhere
...Texas
...Hell
...the third cave on the left

Yes, I'm bored. :)

so lets forget him- let him live in peace and die of old age

candypreet
09-02-2006, 03:26 AM
'Mush has knowledge about Qaida, Taliban'
Rashmee Roshan Lall
[ 2 Sep, 2006 0339hrs ISTTIMES NEWS NETWORK ]
LONDON: Pakistan president Gen Pervez Musharraf is seen in Western capitals as "not only a vital ally but someone with deep inside knowledge of the Taliban, Al Qaida and the jehadi movements — indeed, his army and intelligence services helped to create them in the first place", according to the New Statesman magazine.

The magazine said Musharraf had accordingly "used his privileged position to gain considerable benefits. He had sanctions against Pakistan, imposed because of its nuclear programme, lifted; secured a $1 billion aid package; and negotiated the purchase of new weapons".

Observers said the General's hoof-in to that most exclusive club of all — the phenomenon of dictatorship in a democratising world — was likely to be a huge embarrassment for Musharraf, who has always insisted he is not a tinpot dictator and only seeks to bring real and lasting grassroots democracy to Pakistan.

But the magazine said its selection of men — there are currently no women dictators — was well-chosen to reflect those "who combine a high level of personal power with repressive practices, ranging from press censorship to fixing elections and, in the case of Equatorial Guinea's Teodoro Obiang Nguema, allegedly cannibalising political opponents".

In a final twist of the knife, the magazine added that the exclusive club of dictators to which Musharraf belongs includes "plenty of kitsch excess — bouffant hairstyles, super-sized yachts and a fondness for khaki — and also plenty of suffering: despite a global fear of dictators running amok, the only people they tend to harm are their ownhttp://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1949139.cms

candypreet
11-19-2006, 07:21 AM
Pakistan Province Passes Bill to Create ‘Taliban-Style’ Police System
The North West Frontier Province (NWFP) in Pakistan has this week passed controversial legislation to enable the creation of a “Taliban-style police system.
by Jennifer Gold
Posted: Saturday, November 18, 2006, 12:03 (GMT)]]

http://www.christiantoday.com/article/pakistan.province.passes.bill.to.create.talibansty le.police.system/8382.htm


The North West Frontier Province (NWFP) in Pakistan has this week passed controversial legislation to enable the creation of a "Taliban-style police system", Christian Solidarity Worldwide (CSW) has reported.

The move has been highly controversial and has been dubbed “unconstitutional” by opponents of the bill.

The Hasba Bill was passed on Monday 13 November 2006 with a majority. It allows for the creation of an Islamic watchdog to monitor the strict observance of Islamic practices in public places.

This proposed watchdog has been compared to the Taliban regime’s Department of Prevention of Vice and Promotion of Virtue in Afghanistan.

The Province, which borders Afghanistan, is ruled by the Muttahida Majils-e-Amal Party (MMA) – a coalition of Islamist radical parties said to have close links with the deposed Taliban regime. The MMA has a strong majority in the NWFP provincial assembly.

A previous draft of the legislation was passed by the provincial assembly in 2005. However, the bill was blocked from becoming legislation and declared unconstitutional by Pakistan’s Supreme Court. The current legislation will now be sent to the Province’s governor for ratification.

On Wednesday 15 November 2006, Maulvi Iqbal Haider of Pakistan Awami Himayat Tehreek, an Islamic party, lodged a challenge to the bill in the Supreme Court of Pakistan under Article 184 (3) of the Constitution of Pakistan. He contended that the bill would give rise to a constitutional crisis and lead to a setup parallel to the judicial system in the Province.

The All Pakistan Minorities Alliance has labeled the bill an “Islamic martial law".

Christian Solidarity Worldwide’s Chief Executive, Mervyn Thomas, has said, “The repression imposed by the Taliban regime is well known. It is therefore deeply concerning that a province in Pakistan has chosen to adopt a similar system. Pakistan’s Supreme Court has rejected this legislation once and we urge the authorities in Pakistan to reject it again.”

candypreet
01-03-2007, 07:50 AM
wishing everybody here a happy and peacefull new year.....:add40:

candypreet
11-21-2007, 02:49 AM
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1686017,00.html