anti-ship missiles for terroristan

[candypreet]

Pentagon moves to sell Pakistan anti-ship missiles
06 May 2005 22:30:32 GMT

Source: Reuters

By Jim Wolf

WASHINGTON, May 6 (Reuters) - The Pentagon notified congress on Friday of a proposed sale to Pakistan of 40 air-launched and 20 ground-launched Harpoon Block II anti-ship missiles and related materials valued at up to $180 million.

Pakistan, a key ally in the U.S.-declared war on terrorism, plans to use the equipment to modernize its existing Harpoon missile capability, the announcement said.

The Pakistani Navy already has AGM-84 Block I air/surface/subsurface launch capability, it said.

"The modernization will enhance Pakistan's legitimate self-defense capability," the Pentagon told congress, which has 30 days to move to block any such government-to-government arms sale.

The sale would not affect the basic military balance in the region, the notice said.

"This proposed sale will contribute to the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to improve the security of a friendly country that continues to be a key ally in the global war on terrorism," it said.

The principal contractors are Chicago-based Boeing <BA.N.> and Delex Systems, Inc., of Vienna, Virginia, the Pentagon's Defense Security Cooperation Agency said in the mandatory notice.

On March 25, President George W. Bush authorized the sale of Lockheed Martin (LMT) F-16 fighter jets to Pakistan in a reversal of 15 years of U.S. policy aimed at curbing Pakistan's nuclear weapons program.

At the same time, the administration announced it would let U.S. firms supply India multi-role combat aircraft, including upgraded F-16s and F-18s, as well as Patriot missile defense systems.

The AGM-84 Harpoon Block II missile features satellite-guidance systems designed to attack targets in congested off-shore locations.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N06590606.htm

[candypreet]

bump :) :)

[Lou]

It's an interesting issue worthy of bumping, candypreet. I'll remain silent for the moment, but will encourage disucssion.

[Trinity]

in other news:

The propaganda of undermining the sovereignty of Pakistan and her govermental leaders continues unabated.....

Hilights at 11.

[candypreet]

in other news:

The propaganda of undermining the sovereignty of Pakistan and her govermental leaders continues unabated.....

Hilights at 11.

f-16's and anti ship missiles being sold to pakistan by the US are meant for being used against India.
DO YOU REALLY NEED THESE WEAPONS AGAINST TERRORISTS

[Trinity]

f-16's and anti ship missiles being sold to pakistan by the US are meant for being used against India.
DO YOU REALLY NEED THESE WEAPONS AGAINST TERRORISTS

um...... if they have various organized militaries support (read: Iran), then yes, yes they would.

Pakistan would be foolish to use them against India. With troops in Afghanistan and Iraq, the US would be able to sweep in.... and maybe even China would get into the game.

Well, perhaps they (US) is selling them the equipment they had outsourced to China....

or

the US economy is doing so shitty they have no choice but to rely on good ole reliable ..... weapons and war. Not a good day for the gov't when they go so much in debt without being able to recoup losses (ie: corporate tax)

[candypreet]

Pakistan navy orders 1.3 bln dollar equipment from US

www.chinaview.cn 2005-05-08 13:13:17


ISLAMABAD, May 8 (Xinhuanet) -- Pakistan Navy has placed with the United States an order for eight P3-C Orion aircraft, six Phalanx close-in weapon systems and at least 60 Harpoon missiles worth a total package of 1.3 billion US dollars.

　　The local news paper Dawn reported Sunday that the Pentagon hasnotified the sale of the aircraft and equipment to the US Congress,which is expected to approve it within next 30 days.

When asked if the payments would be made from the country's defense budget, an official said the deal would be paid from the US military assistance for Pakistan.

According to the official, the eight P3-C aircraft with T-56 engines and associated equipment and services will cost 970 million dollars.

The aircraft will help Pakistan Navy develop a long-needed fleet of maritime and border surveillance aircraft, the report said.

It said the command-and-control capabilities of the P3-C aircraft will also help improve Pakistan's ability to restrict littoral movement of terrorists along its southern border and ensure the country's overall ability to maintain integrity of its borders. Enditem

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-05/08/content_2929425.htm

[candypreet]

um...... if they have various organized militaries support (read: Iran), then yes, yes they would.

Pakistan would be foolish to use them against India. With troops in Afghanistan and Iraq, the US would be able to sweep in.... and maybe even China would get into the game.

Well, perhaps they (US) is selling them the equipment they had outsourced to China....

or

the US economy is doing so shitty they have no choice but to rely on good ole reliable ..... weapons and war. Not a good day for the gov't when they go so much in debt without being able to recoup losses (ie: corporate tax)

THATS A POINT

[Trinity]

BEIJING - Chinese computer maker Lenovo has completed its $1.75 billion purchase of IBM's personal computer division, creating the world's third-largest PC maker, the company said Sunday.

The deal — one of the biggest foreign acquisitions ever by a Chinese company — is expected to quadruple sales of Lenovo Group Ltd., already Asia's biggest computer maker, the company said earlier.

"Within weeks, we will be introducing new products as the new Lenovo," Stephen Ward, Lenovo's chief executive officer, said in a company statement without providing specifics.

Lenovo Chairman Yang Yuanqing called the purchase of International Business Machines Corp.'s personal computer division an "historic event" for the company.

The company also confirmed weeks of media speculation that it was raising extra cash for the massive deal. It said three private equity investment firms — Texas Pacific Group, General Atlantic Group and Newbridge Capital Group — have agreed to take a $350 million stake in the company. A shareholder's meeting related to that investment would be held May 13, it said.

Lenovo's shares are traded in Hong Kong, but the company has not announced any plans for other share listings overseas, raising expectations that it would find other ways to raise funds through overseas investors.

The U.S. Committee on Foreign Investment had convened to investigate any national security implications of the proposed acquisition after three members of the U.S. Congress raised questions about the sale, but a review cleared it in March.

Lenovo is partially owned by the Chinese government.

Lenovo was founded in 1984 by academics at the government-backed Chinese Academy of Sciences and first worked out of a small cottage. First set up to distribute equipment made by IBM and other companies, by 1990 it was selling PCs under its own brand name.

IBM now focuses on consulting and software, outsourcing much of its manufacturing. The sale to Lenovo is expected to cut production costs and breathe new life into the PC business, which now accounts for a small portion of IBM's total sales and profits.

IBM had 5 percent of the worldwide PC market in 2004, selling 6.8 million units, according to Gartner Inc., a U.S. technology consulting firm. That compares with 16.4 percent for Dell Inc. and 13.9 percent for Hewlett-Packard Inc., which makes the HP and Compaq brands. Lenovo ranked fifth in sales worldwide.

[candypreet]

US confirms missile sales to Pakistan - daily Islamabad, May 9, IRNA
Pakistan-US-Missile
The United States has confirmed the sale of some of the missiles from a package of 1.3 billion US dollars of ordered military equipment to Pakistan.

The Dawn newspaper reported in its Monday's issue that the order placed by Pakistan included eight P3-C Orion aircraft, six Phalanx close-in weapons systems, and at least 60 Harpoon missiles.

It said the US Defense Secretary Cooperation Agency confirmed that the US had approved the sale of two sets of advanced missiles to Pakistan valued at a total of 226 million dollars.

The body notified the Congress of two potential foreign military sales to Pakistan 180 million dollars in Harpoon Block-II missiles and 46 million dollars in AIM-9M-1/2 Sidewinder missiles, according to the report.

"The sale would contribute to the foreign policy and national security of the US by helping to improve the security of a friendly country that continues to be a key ally in the global war on terrorism," The Nation daily wrote on Sunday.

The Harpoon missiles, it added, will be used to upgrade Pakistan's Navy and reduce the risk of hitting non-combat targets.

On March 25, the US President George W Bush okayed the sale of Lockheed Martin F-16 fighter jets to Pakistan in a reversal of 15 years of US policy aimed at curbing Pakistan's nuclear weapons program.

Pakistan exploded nuclear devices in response. India had earlier detonated nuclear devices in 1974.

MHA/TSH/2325/1432

http://www.irna.ir/en/news/view/line-17/0505090490123331.htm

[candypreet]

AIM-9MUS Defence Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) announced that the Bush administration has authorised the sale to Pakistan of 40 AGM-84L air-launched and 20 RGM-84L surface-launched Harpoon anti-ship missiles, and up to 300 AIM-9M Sidewinder air-to-air missiles. The missiles will upgrade Pakistani stockpiles that already contain older versions of each missile.

The deal for the Harpoon missiles is worth up to $180 million, and the prime contractors on the deal would be Boeing's St. Louis, MO operation and Delex Systems of Vienna, VA. The deal for the AIM-9M Sidewinder missiles is worth up to $46 million, and the prime contractor would be Raytheon Systems in Tucson, AZ.

The DSCA noted that the deal will allow Pakistan to fly armed surveillance aircraft along its western border with Afghanistan and Iran. We at DID found this assertion odd, since the Harpoon missile upgrade is irrelevant for these purposes and the Sidewinder upgrade does not significantly change the balance of power vis-a-vis the Iranian Air Force. As such, we interpret this as a veiled allusion to the fact that the missile sale was Pakistan's quid pro quo for continued armed aerial surveillance of the Afghani border, which remains a focus of Taliban and al-Qaeda infiltration. Since the missiles replace earlier versions, the sale also minimizes diplomatic issues with India. India Monitor (May 10, 2005): US Approves Military Equipment Sales to Pakistan

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/2005/05/upgraded-harpoons-and-sidewinders-to-pakistan/index.php

[candypreet]

this should be read and commented on

[Tomahawk]

f-16's and anti ship missiles being sold to pakistan by the US are meant for being used against India.
DO YOU REALLY NEED THESE WEAPONS AGAINST TERRORISTS Have you ever seen a monkey drive a car?

[candypreet]

Have you ever seen a monkey drive a car?
no, but people are trying to teach them.

[Tomahawk]

no, but people are trying to teach them.I have it's hystarical. They always crash.

[candypreet]

I have it's hystarical. They always crash.:sad_01: :sad_01: :sad_01:

[candypreet]

Pakistan, U.S. navies in counter-terrorism exercise
Reuters
Monday, September 4, 2006; 4:28 AM


KARACHI (Reuters) - Pakistani and U.S. naval forces began a series of exercises on Monday aimed at improving counter-terrorism capabilities, a Pakistani navy spokesman said.

The exercises, named 'Inspired Union', will be held in three phases and are expected to last for two weeks, Lieutenant Commander Salman Ali said
Pakistan has been a U.S. ally for decades but it became a key partner in the U.S.-led war on terrorism after the September 11, 2001, attacks on the United States.

The exercises in the Arabian Sea will involve the U.S. aircraft carrier Enterprise, the guided missile frigate USS Nicholas, the guided missile destroyer USS McFaul and the attack submarine USS Albuquerque.

From the Pakistani side, three ships, a submarine and aircraft will take part.

"The purpose of these exercises is to gain experience in advanced maritime interdiction operations to counter terrorism," Ali said.

The two navies, which have held exercises before, were aiming to improve their ability to work together in a range of areas, he said.

"The exercises are aimed at countering everything from smuggling, drug trafficking, as well as the miscellaneous threats from terrorism," Ali said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/04/AR2006090400103.html

[candypreet]

a bump

[candypreet]

:happy_01: wishing everybody here a happy and peacefull new year............:happy_01:

[candypreet]

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2005-30,GGLG:en&ie=UTF-8&resnum=1&ct=title&ncl=1122500028

[bigearth]

oh, "terroristan" i thought this was about israel :rolleyes:


more of candy's obsessions with pakistan :rolleyes:

[candypreet]

oh, "terroristan" i thought this was about israel :rolleyes:


more of candy's obsessions with pakistan :rolleyes:

:mad_01: :mad_01:

[TXKEVIN]

The AGM-84 Harpoon Block II missile features satellite-guidance systems designed to attack targets in congested off-shore locations.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N06590606.htm


Does Pakistan even have any satellites? Is this like selling them a car where they must call in for the door code with each use?

[TXKEVIN]

:mad_01: :mad_01:

Candy, you need to realize that India is by far one of our most valuable allies along with Canada, England, Saudi Arabia, Japan, Israel and Turkey. Like turkey, India provides us with a unique strategic location. India's strategic proximity to China and the the middle east assure you will get plenty of nice weapons from the US to keep China on its heels. Also your relatively abundant low cost workforce provides a wonderful alternative to China. Currently the US needs Pakistan as a partner in the war on terror. Pakistan is willing to cooperate with the US ONLY because of India and a desire to keep up. We will keep up the apprearance that we desire parity as long as it is reasonable. Make no mistake, the US is in INdia's court though.

If India, would get rid of their goofy economic rules (like its barriers to moving money out of the country) and its corruption it would be on the road to becoming an economic super power to rival China. If it were easy to do business there, few businesses in the US would prefer China over India in my opinion.

[candypreet]

good posts and I agree with what you say, but at the same time it is painfull to see that pakistan is being armed with weapons which will actually be used to against India ( and even the US ) and not terrorism

[Vast]

good posts and I agree with what you say, but at the same time it is painfull to see that pakistan is being armed with weapons which will actually be used to against India ( and even the US ) and not terrorism

Pakistan is going to attack U.S. naval ships?

[candypreet]

Pakistan is going to attack U.S. naval ships?

nnot naval ships.

and havent pakistanis been involved in terrorrism acts against the USA

[TXKEVIN]

good posts and I agree with what you say, but at the same time it is painfull to see that pakistan is being armed with weapons which will actually be used to against India ( and even the US ) and not terrorism

I think it is more likely they will fund and arm terrorist groups that will attack India allowing the Pakistani government to deny direct involvement rather than directly fire on Indian ships. Its a whole different ball game from a Government standpoint when you have nukes as both India and Pakistan do. The stakes are far too high to go sinking a few ships.

[candypreet]

I think it is more likely they will fund and arm terrorist groups that will attack India allowing the Pakistani government to deny direct involvement rather than directly fire on Indian ships.

that they already do.

[Vast]

nnot naval ships.

and havent pakistanis been involved in terrorrism acts against the USA

Sanctioned by the Pakistani government?

[candypreet]

Sanctioned by the Pakistani government?

not officially, but by the ISI.

lets be logical. THe US has attacked Afghanistan for sheltering OBL,
but what about pakistan which has a whole lot of terrorist camps, and I somehow dont believe that their govt doesnt know about those camps