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Hound
04-06-2005, 12:51 AM
who deserves it:
RIP REGIS
thank you
Occupant
04-06-2005, 12:54 AM
Amen, hound.
al-Canine
04-06-2005, 12:57 AM
To Regis, Cbaby and family:
I hope that Regis himself can look upon this board if he chooses, from a place that is free of pain, and peaceful...
Thank you.
Your impact on our country and on us as individuals will never be forgotten.
Our hearts are so saddened by our collective loss.
knightroar
04-06-2005, 01:02 AM
he sought understanding, he sought a better world and he sought an end to hate.
How better to describe a true patriot? He will be missed by many and remembered by many. A greater person can not be found.
RIP Jon
thank you for all you did for all of us.
Rest In Peace Regis.......finally peace.
Occupant
04-06-2005, 01:05 AM
It's unfortunate that the media chose to label him by his business, rather than his passion.
He was a patriot.
Casey
04-06-2005, 01:23 AM
Since I'm lost for words right now, I'll leave you with Jons. Not many people scroll all the way down the alneda.com page.
النداء
AL-QAEDA™ Counter Terror Organization
AL-QAEDA™ Brand News and Current Events Available with-in
PLEASE HOLD for AL-QAEDA™ COUNTER TERROR NEWS and EVENTS
QASSAM.ORG
لواءات عزّ الدين قسام
QASSAM.NET
HAMAS
Al-qaeda
Alnida
al-nida
حماس
الموقع الهامّ
Izz al Din Qassam Brigades
ضع في الوسط للدّراسات الإسلاميّة
القاعدة
Al Neda - The Center for Islamic Research
AlNeda - the Calling
Al-Neda - The Center for Islamic Studies
Alneda.com - the Call
قسام
the Demanding site
أسامة بن لادن
Osama Bin Laden
Alneda.com, Al-qaeda and the rest of the story as you may not know or care.
My name is Jon, and I live in the US in nice seaside town and I was at time in business as an internet entrepreneur involved in web hosting, design, we had an ISP, and perhaps most notoriously we had some ‘adult’ web sites.
The events of Sept 11, 2001 took me as much as pretty much most everyone I know by surprise. I know I had never personally witnessed anything quite so horrifying in my life and it unfolded before my eyes.
My feeling was simply shock, pure shock. Then confusion, because sadly I like most of those around me knew surprisingly little about the world around us.
I could not comprehend the depth of hatred necessary in which someone would commit such a heinous act, against regular people just going to work. I didn’t get.
As strange as this sounds, and please forgive me, I was not angry. I was upset beyond words to the point I could not breathe due to the weight of the grief I felt for the families that lost loved ones in this incident. But I was not angry because in order to be angry I needed to know WHY what happened actually, and once I had enough information I could then be appropriately angry at whoever warranted my anger….. But, I needed information.
I wasn’t getting anything useful from the main stream media. And everyone in Washington seemed to have a political agenda, regardless of what party they represented.
So I set forth to gather my own “intelligence”. And this is where it gets really strange….. But we know that truth is always stranger than fiction.
It appeared to me at the time that general consensus worldwide seemed to support the idea that it was “Islamic Extremist” that were responsible for this act of “terrorism”.
So I set out across the web monitoring various “extremist” websites. I and some others began translating, analyzing various sites that at least appeared to be unfriendly and certainly were soliciting money and actions that were intended to bring death and injury to our Western nations.
They were pretty bold about it, many times simply putting a bank routing number or Visa and MasterCard online shopping cart programs.
And the “donations” were to be used specifically for WEAPONS to be used against US. Further, were volumes upon volumes of zipped documents outlining specific ways to kill US, how to prepare to KILL us….. There were more than a few sites dedicated JUST to “KILLING US”.
The group of us even figured out how many times when they updated the web pages the *real* information was stegographically encrypted into the image in a way that it wasn’t visible to anyone without the special secret encryption key.
By this time, I felt I had the necessary information to be angry, so I think I was….. But still felt pretty confused.
My first instinct was, because I have some basic *networking server* I would just “take down” some of these hostile sites….. it was at this point I got a little tap from above (no not god) reminding me that it is illegal to HACK into anyone’s server, even those whom we do not like…. A felony in fact. I said “er Ok, I’ll find a work around” and I did.
I thought about it for a bit and realized something…… If you are operating a website in which you are soliciting funds for acts of terror one problem would seem self evident.
As a terrorist website, you COULD NOT use ACCURATE contact information in the registration of the internet domain you used for your website.
Meaning for instance, Alneda.com which WAS the actual web address used by the Al-Qaeda organization.
Al-Qaeda could not for obvious reasons put information of contact in which they could actually be reached….. So like anyone else operating an illegal website, they MADE UP the contact info.
This is all well and good except it comes in direct conflict with the terms of service for most internet domain registries.
So I registered Alneda.com, and more than few other websites that blatantly sponsored terror in a program call Snapback by a company Snapnames ™.
Snapback™ simply grabs whatever you domain you register and assigns it to YOU the second a domain is for whatever reason DROPPED by the a holding registrar.
I then went on a letter writing campaign to the various registrars in which these terror websites names were held. I demanded that in accordance with their own terms of service they DROP the domain, for example Alneda.com because the contact info as shown was in fact fictitious.
On July 12, 2002 the ALNEDA.COM was dropped from its registrar months before it was due to expire.
And the moment it was dropped due to my complaint, it was assigned instantly to me.
I did this with not just Alneda.com, but several other websites that represented an actual threat to Western society…i.e.: my friends, family and neighbors..
People sometimes ask me how I can call myself a champion of free speech and conversely hi-jack these websites.
My answer is that these websites made an open threat to the life and well being to my friends and countryman…. More than threat…they went beyond to the point of soliciting funds and were actively planning hostile acts of violence and aggression.
This wasn’t stuff I heard I the news, or read in the paper, this was there in front of me and I felt compelled to act in whatever manner necessary to protect those around me. And if that meant hi-jacking their websites, so be it, it was not their speech I meant to stop but their actions.
Upon seizing control of Alneda I put up a decoy website. An exact duplicate of their own website with the exception of built in tracking so I could see from WHERE all these sites where getting their traffic.
This worked perfectly in that my server logs revealed a reverse mirror back to every terror site that provided a portal to this Al-Qaeda web log.
There was a period of about 12 hours downtime while the decoy site IP address propagated…. But they bought it.
I went back to the sites found in my server logs and on their message boards they exulted “Praise Allah the Demanding Site is again up” (that’s what they called it then.)
Well, this was too good to keep to myself, so I called up the ‘FEDS’ and a day later they sent a guy to my house that said he “wasn’t up on the internet stuff, but the internet guy would get up with me soon.”
I tried to explain HOW time sensitive this was…. I said “THEY are going to realize it IS a decoy soon.” I was assured the “internet guy” would be on the job.
Well the week passed into a full five days. Turned out the internet guy was on vacation. But he gave me a call and an email address.
Later that day the Extremist message boards already knew it was a decoy….. Opportunity missed.
That is crying over spilled milk. But WHAT enraged me was when a Federal Agent asked to enlist MY help and utilize my internet knowledge, even so far as offering to pay me a token….. BUT stating emphatically that no matter what my involvement with the government will be and can never be EVER officially acknowledged by ANY agency solely due to my business interest involving the “adult internet”.
It more than irritated me then, and all through the events later that I was good enough to fight, even die fighting the battle, but too dirty to ever be one of ‘their warriors’.
My house was like I dunno what, agents from agencies popping up at all hours of the day was a regular occurrence.
The Alneda thing did concern me, and putting up the ‘HACKED, TRACKED, and NOW 0WNED by the USA’ might not have been the wisest course of action considering my security depended on agencies who specifically told me that when push comes to shove I’m on my own which is ok, because as time goes by it became clear to me that so is pretty much everyone else out there in America.
A funny thought I had one day was thinking that as far as “Middle America” it is not the prospect that ‘Big Brother is watching’ that is so scary as the new realization that big brother isn’t, and we really ARE out here fending for ourselves, I think is what most average Americans find so frightening.
Youssef al-Eiery was the “internet guy” for Al-Qaeda was killed by Saudi Security forces in Riyadh on June 3, 2003. The story is long but he was involved in some fairly extensive attack planning in the kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
On his bullet riddle person was among other things a blood stained letter hand written by Bin Laden in November some six months before.
It was a congratulatory letter acknowledging the “achievements of the cells” basically, and an incidentally “WTF” about the Alneda site.
In November of 2004 following his death another Al-Qaeda communiqué was released. This one came circulated and was gone in the blink of an eye.
This memo was long and the part that is specific to THIS is the part in which call was made for the return of the ALNEDA site to the “rightful” owners immediately on the new year (ours)… and assurances that the vengeance for its taking and the death of Youssef al-Eiery would be as well.
New Years Day, “Al-Qaeda” nearly succeeded in part one. They nearly seized control BACK of the domain Alneda from Directi, the registry in Bombay where I have it. They used nearly the SAME tactic I used in getting it from them. But with a TWIST.
They forged a letter from ICANN demanding that THEY drop the domain due to false registry information on contact.
They showed contact as being a bogus address and bogus email that was even listed.
BUT because it was FROM ICANN (like the internet government) They SUSPENDED the domain PENDING DELISTING without even bothering to look at the actual CONTACT information on the DOMAIN.
I spent ALL new years eve new years day and over $800 on phone calls and faxes back and forth to Bombay, but in the end I DID prevent THEM from hi-jacking it back.
On the second point I was not so lucky. I suffer a degenerative neuro-systemic disease slowly has taken my lungs, my heart, my mind.
My doctor is perhaps the most dedicated scientist I’ve ever seen. He has said, “It’s not a question of IF they got you, I’m just can’t figure out what it is.”
I’ve lost 25% of my body weight in the past twelve weeks. My mind has only intermittent periods of coherency. I sometimes sleep 22 hours a day. While my lungs are fairly clear, the muscles that move the lung have atrophied to the point I can do almost nothing.
No appetite, No thirst.
Bastards.
ironically.......
Terror websites are protected by the first amendment but my adult website which at one time defined me as an entrepreneur is now likely considered obscene a crime that would have me incarcerated if not for my good fortune of impending death.
America will always be land of free. The most patriotic thing an American can do is to be informed. Gain knowledge from all sources around the world.
Do not take our leaders for their word. Their word is not good. Neither party.
Don’t sacrifice freedom for protection. Our government can’t protect you anyway so WHY give away ANYTHING so PRECIOUS as FREEDOM and LIBERTY.
ACT don’t REACT. Get information, become informed and ACT, don’t simply REACT to something you hear on TV.
Information is power, without power you are powerless and you die.
Yeah….. ok…..I was informed and I died anyway…… point taken…. BUT STAY INFORMED.
Stay well, love your family including your pets, and live like there is no tomorrow, cause their just might not be.
Regards, Jon (Regis)
guest_
04-06-2005, 01:28 AM
How sad. A great loss for so many. My condolences to his family.
RIP.
Spelling Nazi
04-06-2005, 01:32 AM
Rest in Peace, Jon. You were one of the best of us.
Wile E. Coyote
04-06-2005, 01:37 AM
Rest in Peace, Jon. You were one of the best of us.Empty your Pm box Sn.
I'm still speechless. RIP Jon. God bless you.
Cbaby and Jon's family and friends, my condolences.
Even though Regis may have thought of me as just a minor distraction, I thought of him as a friend. Another dead friend.
My best to Regis and everyone he cared for and who cared for him.
Raven
04-06-2005, 01:51 AM
I am truly shocked by this news. How very sad and unfortunate. I wonder if he honestly knew the impact he made on the lives of the readers here; or just how unique this forum was...
I remember some years ago seeing a portrait of all the Looney Tunes characters standing with their heads bowed, a spotlight on the mic that stood alone in silence, in remembrance of Mel Blanc.
As I think of my time here among avatars of those I only know by words or mannerisms, I can't help being reminded of how I felt looking at that portrait.
My most sincere and deepest condolances to his family, and all here as well.
Occupant
04-06-2005, 01:59 AM
It more than irritated me then, and all through the events later that I was good enough to fight, even die fighting the battle, but too dirty to ever be one of ‘their warriors’.
Thank you for showing us Jon through his own words, Casey.
love_lost
04-06-2005, 02:34 AM
Stay well, love your family including your pets, and live like there is no tomorrow, cause their just might not be.You know- of all the crap and nonsense that passes for intelligent thought around here- If someone were to ask me to point to the five really important things that have ever been posted to this board, this would be one of them.
May you and your family know some measure of peace, Jon.
morpheus
04-06-2005, 07:51 AM
again.....Godspeed Jon.
Kestrel
04-06-2005, 08:11 AM
There are 'talkers'.
Then there are 'doers'.
Within the category of 'doers', there are those who do harm and those who do right.
He did right.
For all the right reasons.
My condolences to the family.
chongo
04-06-2005, 09:03 AM
R.i.p.
Virginia
04-06-2005, 09:46 AM
It's unfortunate that the media chose to label him by his business, rather than his passion.
He was a patriot.
Indeed.
It is unfortunate that many "religious" people, agencies and institutions judged and ostracized Jon by his profession.
To Jon...A great man, a great friend, and a great American!
Virginia
04-06-2005, 07:00 PM
Doc and Elli are travelling and are offlline. They asked that their condolences be shared with ya'll. They will miss our beloved Jon dearly.
Atlas
04-06-2005, 07:07 PM
What is/was regis profession?
exitwound
04-07-2005, 10:15 AM
What is/was regis profession?
self-employed server administrator, webmaster, freelance businessman, and if you must bring this into it specifically: pornographer.
personally i think the last item is irrelevant. many people attach a stigma to that, but he proved that he didn't match the stereotype. not by a long shot.
Jon was a good man. That's the only label I feel the need to use.
corpsman69
04-07-2005, 10:47 AM
I do not really care what " Regis " did for a living. His personal matters are just that, personal! I do know that Regis has performed a service through his actions on starting this forum, that go beyond the true intent. He not only has allowed all of us the opportunity to learn more of the world in which we live. He also has given us the ablility to express ourselves, in a manner not readily available before 9/11. The ablility to link to the rest of the world and allow us to attempt to understand the other thoughts and perspectives of vastly different cultures. I feel quite fortunate the day I came across this forum.
Thank You Jon," Regis " for giving me the ability to grow in a way I would not of had without your dream. May you rest in peace, in ours! Condolences to Jon's family and friends. We lost another good one!:happy_12:
Soylent_Green
04-07-2005, 11:12 AM
JD would laugh at all of us right now.
JimHere4U
04-07-2005, 11:27 AM
JD would laugh at all of us right now.
I fail to find the humor.
Soylent_Green
04-07-2005, 12:51 PM
I fail to find the humor.
yup, hed even laugh at that right about now. in fact somewhere in pornographer heaven, hes probably pointing and laughing, specifically at you.
:add09:
Lighten up bro, remember hes the lucky one.
;)
usn_72
04-07-2005, 06:04 PM
I do not really care what " Regis " did for a living. His personal matters are just that, personal! I do know that Regis has performed a service through his actions on starting this forum, that go beyond the true intent. He not only has allowed all of us the opportunity to learn more of the world in which we live. He also has given us the ablility to express ourselves, in a manner not readily available before 9/11. The ablility to link to the rest of the world and allow us to attempt to understand the other thoughts and perspectives of vastly different cultures. I feel quite fortunate the day I came across this forum.
Thank You Jon," Regis " for giving me the ability to grow in a way I would not of had without your dream. May you rest in peace, in ours! Condolences to Jon's family and friends. We lost another good one!:happy_12:
Very nicely put! a million greens for you!
Citizen Snipps
04-07-2005, 06:57 PM
Don't worry, Regis is partying in asgard as we speak. While every member of Al Neda will be melted into plugs in the vats of the eldergods and fed to thier loathesome elementals.
guest_
04-07-2005, 08:18 PM
I was looking at some pics that Regis has taken of his family, friends, home, yard. He was quite the passionate man. He loved his family immensily, which makes him seem more of what I could imagine from his time here.
www.beachfever.com/main.htm (http://)
Sorry the link doesn't work. Just type the addy.
Proud American
04-08-2005, 05:31 AM
I have learned alot from IH in the short time I have been here, I would like to Thank Jon for giving us all a place of diversity where we can learn from one another and share our thoughts. My thoughts and prayers are with the family and like my avatar implies I salute you Jon Messner for you were a true American patriot. R.I.P. Jon.
thirsty
04-08-2005, 05:59 AM
I have learned alot from IH in the short time I have been here, I would like to Thank Jon for giving us all a place of diversity where we can learn from one another and share our thoughts. My thoughts and prayers are with the family and like my avatar implies I salute you Jon Messner for you were a true American patriot. R.I.P. Jon.
I'm sure the Australian posters here too feel the same way and also share their thoughts and express their condolences as I do.
You provided a voice at an international level, well done, we salute you.
corpsman69
04-08-2005, 06:51 PM
I fail to find the humor. Surely Jimmy, that shouldn't surprise anyone!
sods_law
04-09-2005, 07:10 AM
Nothing great in the world has ever been accomplished without passion.
Regis had passion, Rest In Peace Regis.
Pispas
04-09-2005, 08:58 AM
Nothing great in the world has ever been accomplished without passion.
Regis had passion, Rest In Peace Regis.Damn right!
Motley
10-01-2005, 04:53 AM
Bump to keep this within the 30 day limit of thread viewing
Motley
11-11-2005, 04:02 PM
up you go
Motley
12-28-2005, 11:55 PM
up. (Never forget him)
Motley
05-22-2006, 01:02 AM
Up for Jon
Motley
09-11-2006, 06:19 AM
9/11 bump
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