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Noovuss
04-05-2005, 06:07 PM
Pentagon sees Iraq momentum shift
By Rowan Scarborough
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
In the privacy of their E-ring offices, senior Pentagon officials have begun to entertain thoughts that were unimaginable a year ago: Iraq is turning the corner.
Military officials and analysts say the clearing out of enemy-infested Fallujah in November, the Jan. 30 elections and the increasing willingness of Iraqis to fight and die for a democratic country are contributing to the momentum.
“This is still a tough fight. We don’t want anyone to think that it is not,” said retired Air Force Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney, a military analyst who strongly supports Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld. “But the momentum is in our direction.”
A military officer said big problems remain. Sunnis remain reluctant to join the Iraqi security forces. The Marines need more armored vehicles to fight in the Al Anbar province, one of the deadliest sectors. And the Baghdad command inside the green zone has been spotty on providing actionable intelligence.
A military source in Iraq declined to give raw number of attacks, but said, “There has been a decided downward trend in the number and lethality of attacks since the January 30 elections.”
A Pentagon official said the more that intelligence agencies analyze the insurgency, the clearer it becomes that a large part is criminal, not nationalistic.
Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein released tens of thousands of hardened criminals, including murderers, before the March 2003 invasion, meaning that as the ex-convicts are recaptured, insurgent leaders might have an increasingly smaller pool from which to recruit attackers.
“We have always realized there was a criminal element in the insurgency that wasn’t driven by devotion to Saddam. The numbers may be higher than we first estimated,” the official said.
An analysis by Reuters shows that U.S. combat deaths in March so far have averaged barely one per day, the lowest figure since February 2004. All told, 1,520 U.S. personnel have died in Iraq, including 1,164 killed in action.
“They’re clearly going after Iraqi security forces more,” Army Gen. George Casey, the top commander in Iraq, said last month. “That’s kind of a steady thing. And the attacks against coalition actually have dropped off.”
The favorable trends do not mean that insurgents cannot pull off spectacularly deadly attacks on U.S. and Iraqi forces.
On March 24, 11 Iraqi policemen were killed by a single suicide bomber, most likely a terrorist in the employ of Jordanian-born Abu Musab Zarqawi.
But Iraqis continue to sign up. After an even bloodier attack in January against Iraqis in line to apply for police jobs, a still-longer line formed the next day at the same spot, said a U.S. Army officer in Iraq.
And two weeks ago, merchants and residents on one of Baghdad’s main streets joined the fight by using their own guns to kill three terrorists, who were firing on passers-by.
Maj. Gen. Peter Chiarelli, who commands the Army’s 1st Cavalry Division and just returned from a year-plus tour overseeing Baghdad, is telling audiences that Osama bin Laden made a crucial mistake when he publicly encouraged Zarqawi.
It meant that the Saudi bin Laden was telling the Jordanian Zarqawi to slaughter Iraqis.
“Zarqawi is weaker,” Gen. McInerney said. “The Iraqi people defied him and went out and voted. He is spending more time killing Iraqis than he is Americans. He’s losing support among the Iraqi people.”
Lt. Col. James Hutton, Gen. Chiarelli’s spokesman, said another promising development is the proliferation of Iraqi newspapers and radio and TV stations that avoid the anti-U.S. propaganda viewed on Al Jazeera.
“The Iraqi media is really thirsty for facts out on the street,” said Col. Hutton, who made it a point to offer a weekly briefing to the Iraqi press that sometimes featured Gen. Chiarelli. “They want to expose corruption.”
Gen. Chiarelli is also touting the carrot and stick. Attacks in the Shi’ite Baghdad slum Sadr City fell to nearly zero after Army units crushed insurgents and then quickly put hundreds of dwellers to work building basic comforts of home: water, sewer and electric service.
http://www.americasnewspaper.com/middle.shtml

undertaker
04-05-2005, 06:24 PM
See what I sayed! You fuckerz be loozing big tyme! ha ha ha

Orson X :mad:

undertaker
04-05-2005, 06:28 PM
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to 409novaman again.

Orson :D

Strike4ce
04-05-2005, 06:28 PM
Where are the Doom and Gloomers that want failure now?

Groder Mullet
04-05-2005, 07:23 PM
This article is obviously a ruse by the White House to make everybody feel better about the war. Everything in Iraq is going badly. Bad, bad, bad. The only good news coming out is lies and propaganda.

TrustButVerify
04-05-2005, 09:01 PM
so whats all this i've been hearing about large organized assaults on US bases recently...hmmm :add09:

THX1138
04-05-2005, 09:10 PM
so whats all this i've been hearing about large organized assaults on US bases recently...hmmm :add09:



But even those reports have trouble with hyping the doom and gloom. The "big" stories now are about how a dozen or so insurgents attacked something, all the insurgents are usually killed.

Film at 11:00.

Bman
09-22-2006, 01:08 AM
Pentagon sees Iraq momentum shift
By Rowan Scarborough

THE WASHINGTON TIMES

In the privacy of their E-ring offices, senior Pentagon officials have begun to entertain thoughts that were unimaginable a year ago: Iraq is turning the corner.



:add09: :add09: :add09:

el_diablo
09-22-2006, 01:11 AM
I really hoped by this time I'd be cruising the streets of Baghdad in my lowrider.

Bman
09-22-2006, 01:12 AM
Where are the Doom and Gloomers that want failure now?

You mean the folks that tried to warn you all??

They're still here.

orrery
09-22-2006, 01:22 AM
This article is obviously a ruse by the White House to make everybody feel better about the war. Everything in Iraq is going badly. Bad, bad, bad. The only good news coming out is lies and propaganda.

I would definitely advise against anyone letting their guard down or relax. There is much more to be done.

Boomer
09-22-2006, 01:24 AM
Yeah, and all for only 3000 killed, thousands more crippled for life, and half-a-trillion dollars. And for a cause so important to US security, too. And you can just see the progress. Only 6500 Iraqis murdered in the past 2 months.

Just imagine where we'll be 10 years from now.

Bman
09-22-2006, 01:25 AM
Yeah, and all for only 3000 killed, thousands more crippled for life, and half-a-trillion dollars. And for a cause so important to US security, too. And you can just see the progress. Only 6500 Iraqis murdered in the past 2 months.

Just imagine where we'll be 10 years from now.



President Sadr will have things under control by then.

Noovuss
09-22-2006, 01:33 AM
Yeah, and all for only 3000 killed, thousands more crippled for life, and half-a-trillion dollars. And for a cause so important to US security, too. And you can just see the progress. Only 6500 Iraqis murdered in the past 2 months.

Just imagine where we'll be 10 years from now.
Yep, 3000 dead..

http://www.imagecraze.com/uploads/24126_.jpg

Noovuss
09-22-2006, 01:37 AM
:add09: :add09: :add09:
Would have been interesting to see your comments on the shifting tides of WW2..:sad_01:

Pghredneck
09-22-2006, 01:40 AM
President Sadr will have things under control by then.When Muqtada al-Sadr gets off of the plane, prior to his first address to the UN in NYC, after assuming the presidency of Iraq. He will face Washington and deliver the below non-verbal message. I certainly hope we don’t allow him go to Harlem. ;)


http://www.mafhoum.com/press7/189S29_fichiers/040410_alsadr_vmed.vmedium.jpg

Bman
09-22-2006, 01:42 AM
When Muqtada al-Sadr gets off of the plane, prior to his first address to the UN in NYC, after assuming the presidency of Iraq. He will face Washington and deliver the below non-verbal message. I certainly hope we don’t allow him go to Harlem. ;)






The Great Satan was here.. .RIGHT HERE.. just yesterday..

You can still smell his Jewish blood

Noovuss
09-22-2006, 01:49 AM
When Muqtada al-Sadr gets off of the plane, prior to his first address to the UN in NYC, after assuming the presidency of Iraq. He will face Washington and deliver the below non-verbal message. I certainly hope we don’t allow him go to Harlem. ;)


http://www.mafhoum.com/press7/189S29_fichiers/040410_alsadr_vmed.vmedium.jpg
Nice dental work!!

Pghredneck
09-22-2006, 01:53 AM
Duplicate post...

Pghredneck
09-22-2006, 01:54 AM
Nice dental work!!
http://www.mafhoum.com/press7/189S29_fichiers/040410_alsadr_vmed.vmedium.jpg

FrothingManiacOmeter Reading:

L(................../)H

The problem is that we didn't take al-Sadr out early on. Now it's too late...

Noovuss
09-22-2006, 02:10 AM
http://www.mafhoum.com/press7/189S29_fichiers/040410_alsadr_vmed.vmedium.jpg

FrothingManiacOmeter Reading:

L(................../)H

The problem is that we didn't take al-Sadr out early on. Now it's too late...
I guess that when his wife kisses him, she leaves the glad bag on..

http://www.imagecraze.com/uploads/24127_.gif