View Full Version : Stop using the words "Islam" and "Muslim"
emtae
02-19-2006, 09:43 AM
Use the proper terms
Mohammadism (the teachings of an insane cult figure named Mohammad who was a murderer, war monger, jew hater, insane person and a child mollester)
Mohammadist (one who practices Mohammadism) AKA Mohammadan
Use the proper terms
Mohammadism (the teachings of an insane cult figure named Mohammad who was a murderer, war monger, jew hater, insane person and a child mollester)
Mohammadist (one who practices Mohammadism) AKA Mohammadan
I'm on board. It puts the emphasis where it belongs.
Undead
02-19-2006, 11:20 AM
I'm on board. It puts the emphasis where it belongs.
I disagree.
Let the Muslims tell us that they belong to a different group and that they are not in support of the extremists.
It's not our job to differentiate between the peaceful Muslims and the nut jobs.
It's theirs.
Until the Muslims themselves scream from the hilltops that they are not affiliated with the rioters, I will conceder them to be accepting of the extremists if not in support of them.
I disagree.
Let the Muslims tell us that they belong to a different group and that they are not in support of the extremists.
It's not our job to differentiate between the peaceful Muslims and the nut jobs.
It's theirs.
Until the Muslims themselves scream from the hilltops that they are not affiliated with the rioters, I will conceder them to be accepting of the extremists if not in support of them.
The problem is they can't. The fanatics have the scriptural high road. Besides it was during mohammeds seizures that the koran was revealed so thus it is mohammadism.
TheRedHorseman
02-19-2006, 04:26 PM
can we call mormons smithians?
can we call mormons smithians?
Works for me since the Smithing trade is not what it used to be. Using the founders name is more common than not.
I'm on board. It puts the emphasis where it belongs.
that it does, im in.
cant wait for someone to ask if we can call christians "christians"
cant wait for someone to ask if we can call christians "christians"
Be a real shame if that one caught on.
:happy_11:
im sure the riots would start immediatly
Undead
02-19-2006, 05:53 PM
The problem is they can't. The fanatics have the scriptural high road. Besides it was during mohammeds seizures that the koran was revealed so thus it is mohammadism.
Why not?
If a bunch of Christian nuts were trying to burn cities to the ground, the rest of the Christians would be falling all over themselves to say that they weren't happy with the actions of the nut jobs.
There's a big difference between Can't and Won't.
Undead
02-19-2006, 05:56 PM
As far as the Koran being 'reveled', that's a crock.
The Koran is just a different translation of the Old Testament Jewish Bible.
Why not?
If a bunch of Christian nuts were trying to burn cities to the ground, the rest of the Christians would be falling all over themselves to say that they weren't happy with the actions of the nut jobs.
There's a big difference between Can't and Won't.
They can't because the cult-like regime will quickly isolate and kill them. To a mohammadist shirk is worse than killing and they take it seriously.
Missionaries in Turkey from 1820's to 1920's succeeded in peacefully converting only two people. Both were killed within a week. This was the capital of western Christianity 200 years earlier.
Nobody leaves islam alive. At least not without hiding real good in a western state.
Undead
02-19-2006, 06:03 PM
They can't because the cult-like regime will quickly isolate and kill them. To a mohammadist shirk is worse than killing and they take it seriously.
Missionaries in Turkey from 1820's to 1920's succeeded in peacefully converting only two people. Both were killed within a week. This was the capital of western Christianity 200 years earlier.
Nobody leaves islam alive. At least not without hiding real good in a western state.
So what you're saying is that the entire Muslim religion needs to be wiped out.
If that's the case, why change the name?
Why not?
If a bunch of Christian nuts were trying to burn cities to the ground, the rest of the Christians would be falling all over themselves to say that they weren't happy with the actions of the nut jobs.
There's a big difference between Can't and Won't.
if threre were such a group they could not point to ANY doctrine that would give them any standing and as a result they could not call themselves christian.
As far as the Koran being 'reveled', that's a crock.
The Koran is just a different translation of the Old Testament Jewish Bible.
lol.the koran the the torah have NOTHING in common. try reading and comparing them, they are worlds apart. the jewish scripture is history, law, poetics, prophecy, music, biographies
the koran is a series of commands
KAOSKTRL
02-19-2006, 06:43 PM
Some one from FFI tried to get this started a couple of years ago I think it make have legs this time .
MOhammadism it is
Undead
02-19-2006, 08:22 PM
lol.the koran the the torah have NOTHING in common. try reading and comparing them, they are worlds apart. the jewish scripture is history, law, poetics, prophecy, music, biographies
the koran is a series of commands
Are you sure?
026.030
Y: (Moses) said: "Even if I showed you something clear (and) convincing?"
026.031
Y: (Pharaoh) said: "Show it then, if thou tellest the truth!"
026.032
Y: So (Moses) threw his rod, and behold, it was a serpent, plain (for all to see)!
link (http://www.quotesandpoem.com/literature/literaryworks/Religion/Quran_(Koran)_Translations_in_English_by_Abdullah_ Yusuf_Ali,_Marmaduke_Pickthall_and_M_H_Shakir/26)
Sounds awfully familiar to me.
So what you're saying is that the entire Muslim religion needs to be wiped out.
If that's the case, why change the name?
Nobody needs wiping out. What we need to do is define the ideology of Mohammed on western terms and counter it with rhetoric or some spot military action if required.
Immigration rules need a complete overhaul.
Saudi Arabia needs to be brought under a rhetorical microscope. Every move they make that divides people into mohammedist or "other" needs exposed.
Are you sure?
link (http://www.quotesandpoem.com/literature/literaryworks/Religion/Quran_(Koran)_Translations_in_English_by_Abdullah_ Yusuf_Ali,_Marmaduke_Pickthall_and_M_H_Shakir/26)
Sounds awfully familiar to me.
The mohammedist doctrine tries to use Judaism and Christianity to validate its spirituality.
Mohammed had some exposure to other faiths before his revelations.
The similarities in doctrine and practice are thin or we wouldn't have had 1457 years of trouble. None of this is new or surprising.
Undead
02-19-2006, 08:38 PM
If you could provide solid proof that the Koran was (at least partially) copied from the Old Testament, that would be a start as far as refuting the religion goes.
Of course, pressing that point would bring more of an outcry than a silly cartoon.
KAOSKTRL
02-19-2006, 08:46 PM
It will take a lot more thensome borrowed and twisted stories to make a connection.
If you could provide solid proof that the Koran was (at least partially) copied from the Old Testament, that would be a start as far as refuting the religion goes.
Of course, pressing that point would bring more of an outcry than a silly cartoon.
The dream mohammed had in the cave that transformed Jerusalem into the third holiest site of mohammedism even though mohammed never was there and no mohammedist spiritual event happened there.
The mohammedist claim on Jerusalem is simply an object of conquest meant to cripple Jews and Christians. The Jews have never given up and the Christians adopted the stations of the Cross to replace pilgrimage.
Its that bad.
Undead
02-19-2006, 09:58 PM
The dream mohammed had in the cave that transformed Jerusalem into the third holiest site of mohammedism even though mohammed never was there and no mohammedist spiritual event happened there.
The mohammedist claim on Jerusalem is simply an object of conquest meant to cripple Jews and Christians. The Jews have never given up and the Christians adopted the stations of the Cross to replace pilgrimage.
Its that bad.
We're in for a long fight.
I just hope governments don't give in to thier demands just to keep them quiet.
Are you sure?
link (http://www.quotesandpoem.com/literature/literaryworks/Religion/Quran_(Koran)_Translations_in_English_by_Abdullah_ Yusuf_Ali,_Marmaduke_Pickthall_and_M_H_Shakir/26)
Sounds awfully familiar to me.
im positive, there is no connection
We're in for a long fight.
I just hope governments don't give in to thier demands just to keep them quiet.
agreeed, the problem ismany are already doin that. its more of a fight than they want to admit. it would not be PC, and becasue they deny thier own free speech in favor of PC they cut their own throats and try to take us down with them
Undead
02-19-2006, 10:10 PM
agreeed, the problem ismany are already doin that. its more of a fight than they want to admit. it would not be PC, and becasue they deny thier own free speech in favor of PC they cut their own throats and try to take us down with them
We don't have to deny their free speech.
We do need to deny their ability to riot.
Let them complain like everyone else.
On the internet.
Undead
02-19-2006, 10:12 PM
I disagree.
Let the Muslims tell us that they belong to a different group and that they are not in support of the extremists.
It's not our job to differentiate between the peaceful Muslims and the nut jobs.
It's theirs.
Until the Muslims themselves scream from the hilltops that they are not affiliated with the rioters, I will conceder them to be accepting of the extremists if not in support of them.
Someone named Lotimer gave me Reds for this.
The least he could have done was reply to the thread.
We don't have to deny their free speech.
We do need to deny their ability to riot.
Let them complain like everyone else.
On the internet.
no one denys their free speech, besides mohamadeens dont believe in free speech. they on the other hand are seeking to deny ours and that will not be tolerated
Undead
02-19-2006, 10:18 PM
no one denys their free speech, besides mohamadeens dont believe in free speech. they on the other hand are seeking to deny ours and that will not be tolerated
For all of our sakes, lets hope it's not tolerated.
come on in the waters fine
pixikill
02-19-2006, 10:25 PM
I'm on board. It puts the emphasis where it belongs.
me too.
Undead
02-19-2006, 10:28 PM
So...
Back to the original question.
What's wrong with the words "Islam" and "Muslim"?
Is it just an argument of picky semantics?
pixikill
02-19-2006, 10:32 PM
So...
Back to the original question.
What's wrong with the words "Islam" and "Muslim"?
Is it just an argument of picky semantics?
in a way.
but islam and moslem legitimises their beliefs.
and theres no way i would add to that lie.
emtae
02-19-2006, 10:33 PM
can we call mormons smithians?
if you'd like....i don't really give a shit one way or the other.....the point is that Mohammadists are cultists
emtae
02-19-2006, 10:34 PM
So...
Back to the original question.
What's wrong with the words "Islam" and "Muslim"?
Is it just an argument of picky semantics?
calling them "mohammadists" and their cult "mohammadism" really pisses them off....but what the fuck, that's what they were called in my social studies textbooks back in grade school in the late 60s!!!!! BWHAHAHAHAHHAHA!:happy_12:
Undead
02-19-2006, 10:34 PM
in a way.
but islam and moslem legitimises their beliefs.
and theres no way i would add to that lie.
But those are the names they give themselves.
Is the intention simply to use slang, or give to them a code name?
pixikill
02-19-2006, 11:47 PM
But those are the names they give themselves.
Is the intention simply to use slang, or give to them a code name?
as far as im concerned, its just calling it as you see it.
aussies have nic names for everyone.
KAOSKTRL
02-20-2006, 12:09 AM
So...
Back to the original question.
What's wrong with the words "Islam" and "Muslim"?
Is it just an argument of picky semantics?LET US SAY FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT ISLAM MEANS TO BELIEVE IN ONE GOD AND A MUSLIM IS A PERSON WHO BELIVES IN GOD . A MOHAMMADIAN FOLLOWS THE TEACHINGS OF MOHAMMAD AND THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GOD.MOHAMMAD WAS NOT `A PROPHET OF GOD
Someone named Lotimer gave me Reds for this.
The least he could have done was reply to the thread.
He has done that to me twice also. Can't take the discussion so he nips at our heels like a toy poodle. I'm sure there are others.
For all of our sakes, lets hope it's not tolerated.
If you want to read some great writing on the need for criticism check out Walter Lippman. He emphasizes the point that thinking people NEED to hear and evaluate the harshest of criticism to get the most salient of points and to take the right actions.
Just what mohammadism has NOT done for 1457 years. This is a big reason why I say it is a doomed ideology. All the killing aside of course.
LET US SAY FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT ISLAM MEANS TO BELIEVE IN ONE GOD AND A MUSLIM IS A PERSON WHO BELIVES IN GOD . A MOHAMMADIAN FOLLOWS THE TEACHINGS OF MOHAMMAD AND THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GOD.MOHAMMAD WAS NOT `A PROPHET OF GOD
It is more accurate to label mohammadists as such. Like Kaos says adding the belief in One God part just advances their doctrine and cause.
emtae
02-21-2006, 10:27 AM
It is more accurate to label mohammadists as such. Like Kaos says adding the belief in One God part just advances their doctrine and cause.
the point is the mohammadism is a cult.....
sods_law
02-21-2006, 02:19 PM
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/moongod.htm
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/images/muslim.jpg
sods_law
02-21-2006, 02:22 PM
:add12: :add01:
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/moongod.htm
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/images/muslim.jpg
That is some new information for me. Good post.
Invisoclam
02-21-2006, 08:43 PM
Saracens!
emtae
09-10-2006, 09:33 AM
can we call mormons smithians?
That wouldn't be a bad idea.
The good news is that for Catholics, the worst you could say is Christians, because that's who founded the Catholic. Hee hee hee!
Invisoclam
09-10-2006, 04:42 PM
Saracens!
American_Jihad
09-11-2006, 04:03 AM
I'll stick with BEAST.......
Still waiting on the mohammadist peace initiative.
emtae
09-13-2006, 10:53 PM
Shouldn't the Christian world declare a fatwa on Islam because the Koran's portray of Christ as a mere prophet and not the son of God as we believe constitutes blasphemy?
What if the "New Testiment" had a parable added to it saying that Mohammad was just a misguided preacher and was not in fact a messenger of god? They would declare a fatwa on the entire Christian world.
Welp, time to bing the shit on I think. Thoughts?
MerlboroMan
09-13-2006, 11:33 PM
Shouldn't the Christian world declare a fatwa on Islam because the Koran's portray of Christ as a mere prophet and not the son of God as we believe constitutes blasphemy?
What if the "New Testiment" had a parable added to it saying that Mohammad was just a misguided preacher and was not in fact a messenger of god? They would declare a fatwa on the entire Christian world.
Welp, time to bing the shit on I think. Thoughts?
Christians can let it go. Why? Their eternal destination is not dependent on someone else's point of view. Therefore, who gives a fuck what Islam thinks of Jesus?
The real question is what do you think the big mindblowing event of the midseason of Lost season three will be?
Shouldn't the Christian world declare a fatwa on Islam because the Koran's portray of Christ as a mere prophet and not the son of God as we believe constitutes blasphemy?
What if the "New Testiment" had a parable added to it saying that Mohammad was just a misguided preacher and was not in fact a messenger of god? They would declare a fatwa on the entire Christian world.
Welp, time to bing the shit on I think. Thoughts?
Well Christians don't issues "fatwas" but there should be more apologetics concerning the truth of Christ as opposed to the lies that are told about Him. islam goes further than just making Christ out to be a mere prophet, islam has Jesus as a hermophadite the self impregnated and gave birth to Jesus under a date palm in the middle of nowhere. if that's not a certified attack on Christ then nothing is.
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