Ouch ! Thats gonna leave a mark.

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December 18, 2005
Bali bomber: "Aren't you aware that the model for us all, the Prophet Mohammed and the four rightful caliphs, undertook to murder infidels as one of their primary activities?":add09:

Mukhlas reveals himself as another of the legions of misunderstanders of the (alleged) religion of peace. Those who profess to understand its peacefulness full well, meanwhile, have not yet mounted any effective comeback to Mukhlas' religious appeal. "Murder 'infidels', Mukhlas urges," from The Australian, with thanks to Thom:

BALI bombings commander Mukhlas has written a fanatical call-to-arms from his death-row prison cell, exhorting Muslims to kill Westerners.

Published on a website on the orders of notorious terror chief Noordin Mohammed Top, the polemic demonstrates the undiminished fervour of Mukhlas, who has been sentenced to death for commanding the Bali bomb blasts in 2002 that killed 202 people, including 88 Australians.

"You who still have a shred of faith in your hearts, have you forgotten that to kill infidels and the enemies of Islam is a deed that has a reward above no other," says the 60-page polemic written in Indonesian by "Sheikh Mukhlas", posted on the anshar.net website, which has since been shut down by Indonesian police.

"Aren't you aware that the model for us all, the Prophet Mohammed and the four rightful caliphs, undertook to murder infidels as one of their primary activities, and that the Prophet waged jihad operations 77 times in the first 10 years as head of the Muslim community in Medina?"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/009459.php#comments

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December 19, 2005
Australia "race" rioter's mother: he "likes Islam too much"

What is she, some kind of Islamophobe? "Mum's cocktail of fear," from the Herald Sun, with thanks to Snowman:

THE mother of a Melbourne youth allegedly found on a Sydney bus with two bottles of petrol said she was worried he "likes Islam too much".

Amir Ali Osmanagic's distraught mother said yesterday she feared he would get mixed up with trouble-makers when he moved to Sydney three weeks ago.

"He's a very good person, but he like too much Islam," Envera Osmanagic said.

"He likes Islam, maybe he protects Islam, something like that.

"He's young, he does not know what is happening."

Amir Ali Osmanagic, 18, and Parham Esmailpour, 19, of Sydney, gave police different excuses for carrying the petrol, a court heard yesterday.

Mr Osmanagic allegedly said he was helping a mate who had run out of fuel, while Mr Esmailpour said it was for sniffing. They were arrested on Sunday in a major crackdown by police who feared a new outbreak of race violence on Sydney beaches.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/009468.php#comments

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Jihad Watch keeps growing

By the way, I have been meaning to tell you that the Jihad Watch website received well over 13 million hits in November: 13,582,558 to be exact. Also, the counter was down for two whole days and parts of two others; otherwise I think we would have gotten to 14 or even 15 million, since during the month we averaged over 500,000 hits a day.

Word is getting out. Thank you for all your support and encouragement.

http://jihadwatch.org/

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December 21, 2005
Jihad is 'Muslim obligation'

Well, I've been saying this for years, and CAIR and others have claimed that I don't know what I'm talking about. I expect Ibrahim Hooper will be firing off a stern letter to Osman Karahan about how he is misunderstanding Islam. From The Scotsman, with thanks to all who sent this in:

A lawyer defending al Qaida-linked suspects standing trial for the 2003 suicide bombings in Istanbul told a court that jihad, or holy war, was an obligation for Muslims and his clients should not be prosecuted.

"If you punish them for this, tomorrow, will you punish them for fasting or for praying?" Osman Karahan -- a lawyer representing 14 of the 72 suspects -- asked during a nearly four-hour speech in which he read religious texts from an encyclopedia of Islam.

The November 2003 blasts targeted two synagogues, the British Consulate and the local headquarters of the London-based HSBC bank, killing 58 people.

The Arabic word jihad can mean holy war among extremists in addition to its definition as the Islamic concept of the struggle to do good.

Karahan spoke for three hours at the court in Istanbul.

"If non-Muslims go into Muslim lands, it is every Muslim's obligation to fight them," Karahan said.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/009487.php#comments

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December 21, 2005
Jihad is 'Muslim obligation'

Well, I've been saying this for years, and CAIR and others have claimed that I don't know what I'm talking about. I expect Ibrahim Hooper will be firing off a stern letter to Osman Karahan about how he is misunderstanding Islam. From The Scotsman, with thanks to all who sent this in:

A lawyer defending al Qaida-linked suspects standing trial for the 2003 suicide bombings in Istanbul told a court that jihad, or holy war, was an obligation for Muslims and his clients should not be prosecuted.

"If you punish them for this, tomorrow, will you punish them for fasting or for praying?" Osman Karahan -- a lawyer representing 14 of the 72 suspects -- asked during a nearly four-hour speech in which he read religious texts from an encyclopedia of Islam.

The November 2003 blasts targeted two synagogues, the British Consulate and the local headquarters of the London-based HSBC bank, killing 58 people.

The Arabic word jihad can mean holy war among extremists in addition to its definition as the Islamic concept of the struggle to do good.

Karahan spoke for three hours at the court in Istanbul.

"If non-Muslims go into Muslim lands, it is every Muslim's obligation to fight them," Karahan said.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/009487.php#comments

A public and legal argument that Jihad IS what CAIR denies. So who is lying?

In the city of Constantinople that was the greatest Christian city at one time.

Quite the prize for Islam. Hypocracy, genocide, and subjugation. Now there is little left in Constantinple to subjugate.

[Invisoclam]

December 18, 2005
Bali bomber: "Aren't you aware that the model for us all, the Prophet Mohammed and the four rightful caliphs, undertook to murder infidels as one of their primary activities?":add09:

Mukhlas reveals himself as another of the legions of misunderstanders of the (alleged) religion of peace. Those who profess to understand its peacefulness full well, meanwhile, have not yet mounted any effective comeback to Mukhlas' religious appeal. "Murder 'infidels', Mukhlas urges," from The Australian, with thanks to Thom:

BALI bombings commander Mukhlas has written a fanatical call-to-arms from his death-row prison cell, exhorting Muslims to kill Westerners.

Published on a website on the orders of notorious terror chief Noordin Mohammed Top, the polemic demonstrates the undiminished fervour of Mukhlas, who has been sentenced to death for commanding the Bali bomb blasts in 2002 that killed 202 people, including 88 Australians.

"You who still have a shred of faith in your hearts, have you forgotten that to kill infidels and the enemies of Islam is a deed that has a reward above no other," says the 60-page polemic written in Indonesian by "Sheikh Mukhlas", posted on the anshar.net website, which has since been shut down by Indonesian police.

"Aren't you aware that the model for us all, the Prophet Mohammed and the four rightful caliphs, undertook to murder infidels as one of their primary activities, and that the Prophet waged jihad operations 77 times in the first 10 years as head of the Muslim community in Medina?"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/009459.php#comments

No!
He is taking that out of context surely!

[KAOSKTRL]

December 22, 2005

'They promised us paradise through martyrdom'

In full accord with Qur'an 9:111. From GulfNews (http://www.gulfnews.com/region/Saudi_Arabia/10006478.html), with thanks to Sr. Soph:

"They promised us paradise through martyrdom," said a Saudi youth who has abandoned extremism. A number of other reformed young men echoed his view. Their revelations were broadcast live on Saudi television as part of a serial entitled Experiments in the name of Jihad. Twelve youths who gave up deviant thoughts appeared on Tuesday on the fourth episode of the programme titled 'Regions of clash'.
The episode focused on five major aspects related with extremism. These included temptations for waging holy war (jihad), impact of the decision to join extremist camps, influence of media that illustrate the immensity of death and destruction caused to Muslims across the world, especially in Palestine and Iraq, wrong notions about jihad, and possibility of bringing these youths back from their deviant paths and accommodating those returning from the "regions of clashes".
The youths narrated the circumstances that led them to extremist camps. "The plight of the Muslim ummah as well as the death and destruction caused to our brethren forced us to join with deviant groups. We were easily lured with the promise of paradise through joining in the efforts to alleviate the suffering of our brethren," one of them said.
If all that is the case, what has "reformed" them?
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/009506.php#comments

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December 25, 2005

Father in Pakistan Kills His 4 Daughters

Another honor killing in Pakistan. Those who claim that this sort of thing has nothing to do with Islam and the Sharia imperative have yet to explain why the overwhelming majority of such cases happen in an Islamic context. The shame/honor culture, rooted in Islamic ideas of purity and impurity, is what gives rise to this. From AP (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051225/ap_on_re_as/pakistan_honor_killings), with thanks to JE:

MULTAN, Pakistan - A father, angry that his eldest daughter had married against his wishes, slit her throat as she slept and then killed three of his other daughters in a remote village in eastern Pakistan, police said Saturday. Nazir Ahmad, a laborer in his 40s, feared the younger girls, aged 4, 8, and 12, would follow in their sister's footsteps, police officer Shahzad Gul said.
Ahmad surrendered to police after the killings late Friday in Burewala, about 70 miles east of Multan, a main city in eastern Punjab province, Gul said.
"He (Ahmad) told us today that he has killed his daughters, and we arrested him," he said.
Gul said the man's 25-year-old daughter, Muqadas Bibi, had married the man of her choice against her father's wishes some weeks ago. Ahmad contacted Bibi this week, saying he was ready to forgive her, Gul said.
During a visit by Bibi to her parents' house, Ahmad slit her throat as she slept and then killed the other three girls, Gul said. He said police were investigating whether other relatives helped in the killings and were also looking for Bibi's husband....
Hundreds of women are killed in Pakistan every year, many by male relatives, after they are accused of staining their families' honor by having affairs or marrying for love without family consent.

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Tsunami was God's revenge for your wicked ways, women told
From Nick Meo in Aceh
Religious extremists are using last year’s storm to oppress the survivors
MARLUDDIN JALIL, a Sharia judge who has ordered the punishment of women for not wearing headscarves, was uncompromising: “The tsunami was because of the sins of the people of Aceh.”

Thundering into a microphone at a gathering of wives, he made clear where he felt the fault lay: “The Holy Koran says that if women are good, then a country is good.”

A year after the disaster which many see as a divine punishment, emboldened Islamic hardliners are doing their best to eradicate sin — and women are their prime targets.

With reconstruction slow, irrational fears of a second tsunami high, and nearly 500,000 still homeless along 500 miles of coastline, the stern message falls on fertile ground. A Sharia police force modelled on Saudi moral enforcers enthusiastically seeks out female wrong doers for public humiliation.

The Wilayatul Hisbah, which loosely translates as “Control Team”, has arrested women, lopped off their hair, and paraded them in tears through the streets while broadcasting their sins over a megaphone.

More than 100 gamblers and drinkers — men and women — have been caned in public and some clerics are calling for thieves’ hands to be amputated.

The Islamic law introduced without popular enthusiasm in 2002 has been implemented rigorously since the tsunami, especially in towns such as Lhokseumawe, where Fatimah Syam, of Indonesian Women for Legal Justice, knows of 20 women who have fallen foul of it.

She said: “They seek out women without headscarves or unmarried girls meeting boys in private and parade them through the streets in an open car. I’ve seen the police laughing and boasting, and the girls in tears. The Sharia police say the tsunami happened because women ignored religion. We never heard of this parading before the tsunami.”

The poor, powerless and female have borne the brunt of the moral enforcers’ righteousness. Mrs Syam claimed the wife of an official caught without a headscarf on a scooter was let off last month and a prostitute who was paraded through the town won the sympathy of passers-by because of the hypocrisy of her persecutors: the woman’s client was allowed quietly to disappear.

The religious police have not always had it their own way. In one incident on the island of Sabang, attempts to humiliate a bareheaded girl backfired when angry villagers turned on them. By the time the civil police arrived to rescue the enforcers they were surrounded by an angry mob flicking lighted cigarettes at them.

But such setbacks and public unease have not dampened the zeal of Dr Jalil, a small, neat man with a trimmed moustache whose particular concerns are headscarves, gambling, alcohol, and girls meeting boys. “Sin starts small and gets bigger,” he said. His next target is a displaced persons’ camp outside Lhokseumawe where he has heard of young men and women freely mixing.

“Another tsunami is possible,” he said. “The Holy Koran says that if humans don’t listen to Allah they will be punished.”

He was not sure whether there was more or less sin since the disaster although he believes that the Acehnese are more God-fearing now. In the tent camps and temporary wooden barracks where desperate survivors endure grim conditions, Dr Jalil’s views are often well received. There are 67,000 survivors still living in tents and a further 75,000 are in the slum barracks, which are taking on a semipermanent air. Only half of those who lost their jobs in the disaster are back at work and drug abuse among the young is growing.

Although Aceh province is now a giant building site, the sheer scale of destruction has slowed work. A third of government servants died and 1,000 miles of roads were wiped out, making the logistics of recovery extremely difficult.

The Government says it has built 12,000 of the 80,000 permanent homes it aims for and that housing will be its top priority next year. But some aid workers think there could still be families under canvas in three years’ time.

Surnyati Alian, five months pregnant, is a typical survivor, squeezed with her family of four into a 12ft square tent beside a stinking ditch among the ruins of Meulaboh on the west coast. Like many Acehnese women she is desperate for a new family. Her four-year-old daughter was torn from her grasp as the wave crashed down on them. The child’s body was never found. Now she faces the prospect of nursing a new baby in a tent that is black with mould.

In such conditions wild theories about the tsunami thrive. In a version of Pop Idol organised by the American and Indonesian Red Cross in Barak Lampaseh camp in Banda Aceh, the winner was 12-year-old Sheila Mentari, whose song told how God sent the wave as punishment for sin. She said her father, who died in the wave, would have approved.

A fellow villager Marzuki Lidan, 46, who lost his wife and children, was among the enthusiastic audience. He said: “The Sharia police are good Muslims doing an excellent job. We must listen to them and follow God’s rules. Otherwise the tsunami will happen again.”

INDONESIA: ONE YEAR ON

# 18,149 permanent shelters built; 75,576 living in organised barracks; 67,504 in tent camps; 293,740 in host families.

# A quarter of those in need expected to be in permanent housing by end of year

# Almost 70 per cent of fishing boats destroyed rebuilt or being constructed

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December 27, 2005
D.C. Watson to CAIR: Sit down and shut up
D. C. Watson offers CAIR some more advice:

Your concerns are of great importance, or at least they should be. You're the largest Muslim civil rights and advocacy group in the U.S. Congratulations. So perhaps you can explain why you, as a Muslim civil rights and advocacy group that, according to your mission statement, is here to "enhance understanding of Islam, encourage dialogue, protect civil liberties", "empower American Muslims, and build coalitions that promote justice and mutual understanding," oppose the government of the United States monitoring mosques, homes, businesses and warehouses for increased radiation levels?
Would you also be opposed to this activity if it were churches that were being monitored? At least the mosques in America remain standing. Can you say the same for the Churches situated in Islamic States, which are often on fire when they're shown on the news? In case you’ve been tucked away from reality for the past four years, there have been hundreds of arrests and convictions of Muslims inside the United States. Not for jaywalking, unpaid parking tickets, or vagrancy, but for the plotting of terrorist attacks, credit card fraud, drug trafficking, car theft, and money laundering activities, all of which have been determined to be for the purpose of financing Islamic terrorist attacks. And to this day, they continue.

http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/eousa/foia_reading_room/usab5104.pdf (A good read)

http://frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=19671

http://www.ajc.org/site/c.ijITI2PHKoG/b.1075803/k.22E/Other_Significant_Arrests_Indictments_and_Convicti ons.htm

http://news.findlaw.com/cnn/docs/infocom/uselashi121702sind.pdfhttp://www.homelandsecurityus.com/virginiajihadindict.pdf

If you're actually wondering why these facilities have been monitored, the following should serve as sufficient reasons:

1) 150 terrorist cells and threats from Portland, Ore., to Lackawanna, N.Y.
2) More than 3,000 known terrorist operatives inside the U.S.
3) 375 charged persons in terrorism-related cases, 195 of whom already have pleaded guilty or been convicted, and removed from the country (as of May 2005).
4) More than 500 people linked to September 11.
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050503-114633-5129r.htm

As representatives of the Islamic community, shouldn't you be elated over the capture and disruption of these "misunderstanders" of Islam, which in turn has also protected Muslims who don't want to live under the thumb of Islamic law, and enjoy their freedom here?


If it's rights you're worried about, you can begin with thinking about the rights the people who live in free societies to go about their lives in peace, and who should be able to do so without the threat of violence from religious crackpots. More legitimacy for this monitoring stems from the fact that Saudi-funded literature that exudes hatred for the United States has been found in msoques all over this country. The principles of Wahhabi (radical, fundamentalist) Islam, have been discovered in American mosques, as is demonstrated in this report (a good read): http://freedomhouse.org/religion/pdfdocs/FINAL%20FINAL.pdf The Freedom House report clearly demonstrates that Saudi Arabia, with its promotion of Wahhabi Islam, is no friend to the United States. Were it not for its oil reserves, it would likely take its natural place as just another dune in the desert. You've received a sizable donation from a Saudi Prince yourselves, have you not? Maybe all of you at the CAIR actually believe that the American people are just stupid enough to be falling for the playing of phony race cards and attempted guilt trips. I assure you, if this is what you think, you have made another error in judgment. The mainstream media may fall for this game, and may even assist you in playing it -- and let us not forget some of our more flighty politicians, who feel the need to appease you. But you are being put out in the open, and the country is seeing it. Come to think of it, the world is beginning to see through all of the fog: http://pewglobal.org/reports/display.php?PageID=812
In your opinion, are Western values fundamentally at odds with those of Islam? Yes 12953 votes (65 %) No 6852 votes (35 %) Total Votes: 19805
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/Page/document/polls/pollResults?id=37018&pollid=37018&answerid=&poll=GAMFront&save=_save&show_vote_always=no&hub=Front&subhub=VoteResult When you make the type of public statements that some of you have made, you know, statements that Islam should be "the only accepted religion on earth", that the Qur'an should be "the highest authority in America", and statements about wanting to see the government of the United States become "Islamic sometime in the future", not only do you verify your extremist aspirations, you also sweep away any chances of duping Americans into viewing you as a group that strives for pluralism. When you have placed your efforts on trying to defend the indefensible with your ongoing badgering, your hopes of being looked upon as some sort of victim are being dashed. Islam, especially in the way in which you have presented it, has alienated millions, including some Muslims. Understand this: This is not your nation. You are not running the show. You do not dictate our security policies. And you should explain to the American public why you would question the radiation monitoring of mosques, businesses and homes of some Muslims in the United States, when the publicly stated goal of your coreligionist Osama bin Laden is to detonate one or more nuclear devices inside our borders. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48061 We will continue to protect ourselves, regardless of whether or not you approve. It is time for you, as representatives of Islam, to help clean up the internal problems that your faith obviously has instead of placing the blame on everyone else. I have a question for you: How many Muslims have you turned in to authorities for any reason whatsoever? Any? Did you turn in the three convicts of your own, Elashi, Khafagi, or Royer? Did you facilitate their arrests and eventual convictions? Have you turned in any of the Imams who preach hate in American mosques? Have you called the authorities about the madrassas that sit on American soil, like the Islamic Saudi Academy (which produced convicted Muslim jihadist Ahmed Abu Ali)? http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/005908.php
Have you investigated whether they teach loyalty to the Qur'an instead of to the U.S. Constitution? Do you know whether or not they teach Islamic students that Christianity and Judaism are false religions, and tell their students that "the Day of Judgment can't come until Jesus Christ returns to Earth, breaks the cross and converts everyone to Islam, and until Muslims start attacking Jews"?

From the column:

At the Al-Qalam All-Girls School in Springfield, Va., seventh graders learn that Usama bin Laden may be not a villain but a victim of Americans' biased views toward great Islamic leaders. Hence "some students question the government's claim that bin Laden is responsible for the terrorist attacks — disputing that videotapes actually show him taking credit." http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,46610,00.html<
Have you taken these teachers aside and advised them that they have it all wrong? Have you counseled them? Have you shared with them your infinite wisdom on how to integrate Islam into American society and teach allegiance to the American Constitution?
Perhaps you just don't have the time to pursue these issues, since it must take some doing to compile all of these "anti-Muslim hate crimes", and draw hijabs onto photographs of women who weren't wearing hijabs when the photos were taken:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=18109
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/008110.php

There are terms used to describe people like you: hypocritical bigots. When those who follow the words of Muhammad, the Sunnah, and the Qur'an cease all attacks currently being carried out in the name of Islam and join the rest of us here in the twenty-first century, perhaps all this surveillance can be eliminated. Until that happens, which doesn't appear to be anytime soon, you can forget it. The American people owe you nothing. Blind eyes and deaf ears will not be turned.

So, since for now you still reside in the United States, until you can bring yourselves to step outside of your Islamic cocoons and become true Americans, do this nation a favor, stop your meddling. Sit down and shut up. Only those who have yet to be properly informed care about your whining. As soon as the good people who sympathize with you realize that your desires for the establishment of an Islamic America would do away with the civil rights we all cherish, you will be rendered insignificant. In the words of another of your coreligionists, Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed: "We will use your democracy to destroy your democracy." And in the words of counter-Islamic jihadists around the world: Like hell you will.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/009568.php#more

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Pakistani Describes Killing of Daughters
By KHALID TANVEER (Associated Press Writer)
From Associated Press
December 28, 2005 1:13 PM EST
MULTAN, Pakistan - Nazir Ahmed appears calm and unrepentant as he recounts how he slit the throats of his three young daughters and their 25-year old stepsister to salvage his family's "honor" - a crime that shocked Pakistan.

The 40-year old laborer, speaking to The Associated Press in police detention as he was being shifted to prison, confessed to just one regret - that he didn't murder the stepsister's alleged lover too.

Hundreds of girls and women are murdered by male relatives each year in this conservative Islamic nation, and rights groups said Wednesday such "honor killings" will only stop when authorities get serious about punishing perpetrators.

The independent Human Rights Commission of Pakistan said that in more than half of such cases that make it to court, most end with cash settlements paid by relatives to the victims' families, although under a law passed last year, the minimum penalty is 10 years, the maximum death by hanging.

Ahmed's killing spree - witnessed by his wife Rehmat Bibi as she cradled their 3 month-old baby son - happened Friday night at their home in the cotton-growing village of Gago Mandi in eastern Punjab province.

It is the latest of more than 260 such honor killings documented by the rights commission, mostly from media reports, during the first 11 months of 2005.

Bibi recounted how she was woken by a shriek as Ahmed put his hand to the mouth of his stepdaughter Muqadas and cut her throat with a machete. Bibi looked helplessly on from the corner of the room as he then killed the three girls - Bano, 8, Sumaira, 7, and Humaira, 4 - pausing between the slayings to brandish the bloodstained knife at his wife, warning her not to intervene or raise alarm.

"I was shivering with fear. I did not know how to save my daughters," Bibi, sobbing, told AP by phone from the village. "I begged my husband to spare my daughters but he said, 'If you make a noise, I will kill you.'"

"The whole night the bodies of my daughters lay in front of me," she said.

The next morning, Ahmed was arrested.

Speaking to AP in the back of police pickup truck late Tuesday as he was shifted to a prison in the city of Multan, Ahmed showed no contrition. Appearing disheveled but composed, he said he killed Muqadas because she had committed adultery, and his daughters because he didn't want them to do the same when they grew up.

He said he bought a butcher's knife and a machete after midday prayers on Friday and hid them in the house where he carried out the killings.

"I thought the younger girls would do what their eldest sister had done, so they should be eliminated," he said, his hands cuffed, his face unshaven. "We are poor people and we have nothing else to protect but our honor."

Despite Ahmed's contention that Muqadas had committed adultery - a claim made by her husband - the rights commission reported that according to local people, Muqadas had fled her husband because he had abused her and forced her to work in a brick-making factory.

Police have said they do not know the identity or whereabouts of Muqadas' alleged lover.

Muqadas was Bibi's daughter by her first marriage to Ahmed's brother, who died 14 years ago. Ahmed married his brother's widow, as is customary under Islamic tradition.

"Women are treated as property and those committing crimes against them do not get punished," said the rights commission's director, Kamla Hyat. "The steps taken by our government have made no real difference."

Activists accuse President Gen. Pervez Musharraf, a self-styled moderate Muslim, of reluctance to reform outdated Islamized laws that make it difficult to secure convictions in rape, acid attacks and other cases of violence against women. They say police are often reluctant to prosecute, regarding such crimes as family disputes.

Statistics on honor killings are confused and imprecise, but figures from the rights commission's Web site and its officials show a marked reduction in cases this year: 267 in the first 11 months of 2005, compared with 579 during all of 2004. The Ministry of Women's Development said it had no reliable figures.

Ijaz Elahi, the ministry's joint secretary, said the violence was decreasing and that increasing numbers of victims were reporting incidents to police or the media. Laws, including one passed last year to beef up penalties for honor killings, had been toughened, she said.

Police in Multan said they would complete their investigation into Ahmed's case in the next two weeks and that he faces the death sentence if he is convicted for the killings and terrorizing his neighborhood.

Ahmed, who did not resist arrest, was unrepentant.

"I told the police that I am an honorable father and I slaughtered my dishonored daughter and the three other girls," he said. "I wish that I get a chance to eliminate the boy she ran away with and set his home on fire."

http://start.earthlink.net/article/top?guid=20051228/43b21bd0_3ca6_1552620051228-612626908

[KAOSKTRL]

December 29, 2005

Home Depot jihad?

Ali R. Warrayat sounds crazier than a bedbug -- and "deeply religious." What does this all add up to? Probably just a lone nut doing nutty things. With enough fuel from his religious texts to stoke the fires of his hatred. "Crash into store was a personal statement," from the East Valley Tribune (http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/index.php?sty=56094), with thanks to Brenda Walker (http://www.limitstogrowth.org/):

TO OUR READERS: The following story is based on witness accounts and a police report released Wednesday. He placed both hands on the steering wheel, stared straight ahead and barrelled toward the front entrance of Home Depot.

Ali R. Warrayat hadn’t slept in days, planning this moment down to the last detail. Now, his face was void of any expression. A store employee jumped out of the car’s path. To drown out the man’s yells, Warrayat reached over to his car radio and blasted Arabic music before crashing through the front doors.
The scene was only the beginning of a violent rampage through the Chandler store on Dec. 18. For the 24-year-old Arizona State University student, the motives behind the attack were personal.
He told Chandler police he was angry at Home Depot, where he worked as a paint stocker, about not getting a proper raise. He was mad at the United States for proposing a 700-mile fence along the Mexican border.
He wanted to make America "more free."
So the Jordanian-turned-U.S. citizen devised a plan to make a grand statement by crashing into the store at Alma School Road and Chandler Boulevard and setting it on fire.
At first, he wanted to wear a Palestinian flag, but later decided to place it in the trunk of his car, along with a copy of the Quran and a necklace....

After crashing through the doors at 6 a.m. that Sunday, he expertly navigated the aisles and headed straight for the paint department, slamming his car into the flammable goods. He jumped to the roof of the car, looked around for a second and then hopped to the ground.
He used a lighter to ignite the blaze, and loud explosions followed as store employees ran for safety.
Many employees recognized Warrayat, who worked in the store six months ago but transferred to a Queen Creek location after having difficulties with a supervisor....
As Warrayat headed for the exit, he swept merchandise from the shelves and then sat on the curb outside waiting for police to come and arrest him.
But his cooperation ended there as he kicked and struggled with officers when asked to get in the patrol car.
When an officer asked if he understood his Miranda rights, Warrayat shot back in a foreign language. The officer asked if he understood English, and Warrayat replied in English, "Do you speak Arabic?"
He was arrested on suspicion of aggravated assault and arson, causing about $1 million in damage. He is being held without bond at Maricopa County’s Lower Buckeye Jail in Phoenix....
Co-worker and friend Joaquin Bustamante said Warrayat was "gentleman-like and respectable with everyone."
"When I saw him on TV, he did not look like the Ali that I know," Bustamante said. "He was a hard worker and worked circles around everybody, and he was a very private person."
Bustamante said Warrayat was deeply religious and had a Quran hanging from his rearview mirror.
In police statements, Warrayat referred to his religion often. He said a swastika was once painted on the mosque where he prays, so he had the mark tattooed in red and black on the bottom of his foot. In his religion, stepping on things is considered disrespectful.
He also described trying to put the dog in his trunk to show it the Quran. He said dogs are "filthy" and that was why the dog didn’t want to be in the trunk with the holy book....
Initial images on his computer depicted men lighting Molotov cocktails and a cartoon of two bloodied and dead children with a Middle Eastern flag in the background....

[Tomahawk]

December 25, 2005

Father in Pakistan Kills His 4 Daughters

Another honor killing in Pakistan. Those who claim that this sort of thing has nothing to do with Islam and the Sharia imperative have yet to explain why the overwhelming majority of such cases happen in an Islamic context. The shame/honor culture, rooted in Islamic ideas of purity and impurity, is what gives rise to this. From AP (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051225/ap_on_re_as/pakistan_honor_killings), with thanks to JE:

MULTAN, Pakistan - A father, angry that his eldest daughter had married against his wishes, slit her throat as she slept and then killed three of his other daughters in a remote village in eastern Pakistan, police said Saturday. Nazir Ahmad, a laborer in his 40s, feared the younger girls, aged 4, 8, and 12, would follow in their sister's footsteps, police officer Shahzad Gul said.
Ahmad surrendered to police after the killings late Friday in Burewala, about 70 miles east of Multan, a main city in eastern Punjab province, Gul said.
"He (Ahmad) told us today that he has killed his daughters, and we arrested him," he said.
Gul said the man's 25-year-old daughter, Muqadas Bibi, had married the man of her choice against her father's wishes some weeks ago. Ahmad contacted Bibi this week, saying he was ready to forgive her, Gul said.
During a visit by Bibi to her parents' house, Ahmad slit her throat as she slept and then killed the other three girls, Gul said. He said police were investigating whether other relatives helped in the killings and were also looking for Bibi's husband....
Hundreds of women are killed in Pakistan every year, many by male relatives, after they are accused of staining their families' honor by having affairs or marrying for love without family consent.
This is the islam I see, your average American. And that is why I can't stand it. And that's why it makes me sick when people defend it, and then think I'm in the wrong for for being disgusted.

[Tomahawk]

December 29, 2005

Home Depot jihad?

Ali R. Warrayat sounds crazier than a bedbug -- and "deeply religious." What does this all add up to? Probably just a lone nut doing nutty things. With enough fuel from his religious texts to stoke the fires of his hatred. "Crash into store was a personal statement," from the East Valley Tribune (http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/index.php?sty=56094), with thanks to Brenda Walker (http://www.limitstogrowth.org/):

TO OUR READERS: The following story is based on witness accounts and a police report released Wednesday. He placed both hands on the steering wheel, stared straight ahead and barrelled toward the front entrance of Home Depot.

Ali R. Warrayat hadn’t slept in days, planning this moment down to the last detail. Now, his face was void of any expression. A store employee jumped out of the car’s path. To drown out the man’s yells, Warrayat reached over to his car radio and blasted Arabic music before crashing through the front doors.
The scene was only the beginning of a violent rampage through the Chandler store on Dec. 18. For the 24-year-old Arizona State University student, the motives behind the attack were personal.
He told Chandler police he was angry at Home Depot, where he worked as a paint stocker, about not getting a proper raise. He was mad at the United States for proposing a 700-mile fence along the Mexican border.
He wanted to make America "more free."
So the Jordanian-turned-U.S. citizen devised a plan to make a grand statement by crashing into the store at Alma School Road and Chandler Boulevard and setting it on fire.
At first, he wanted to wear a Palestinian flag, but later decided to place it in the trunk of his car, along with a copy of the Quran and a necklace....

After crashing through the doors at 6 a.m. that Sunday, he expertly navigated the aisles and headed straight for the paint department, slamming his car into the flammable goods. He jumped to the roof of the car, looked around for a second and then hopped to the ground.
He used a lighter to ignite the blaze, and loud explosions followed as store employees ran for safety.
Many employees recognized Warrayat, who worked in the store six months ago but transferred to a Queen Creek location after having difficulties with a supervisor....
As Warrayat headed for the exit, he swept merchandise from the shelves and then sat on the curb outside waiting for police to come and arrest him.
But his cooperation ended there as he kicked and struggled with officers when asked to get in the patrol car.
When an officer asked if he understood his Miranda rights, Warrayat shot back in a foreign language. The officer asked if he understood English, and Warrayat replied in English, "Do you speak Arabic?"
He was arrested on suspicion of aggravated assault and arson, causing about $1 million in damage. He is being held without bond at Maricopa County’s Lower Buckeye Jail in Phoenix....
Co-worker and friend Joaquin Bustamante said Warrayat was "gentleman-like and respectable with everyone."
"When I saw him on TV, he did not look like the Ali that I know," Bustamante said. "He was a hard worker and worked circles around everybody, and he was a very private person."
Bustamante said Warrayat was deeply religious and had a Quran hanging from his rearview mirror.
In police statements, Warrayat referred to his religion often. He said a swastika was once painted on the mosque where he prays, so he had the mark tattooed in red and black on the bottom of his foot. In his religion, stepping on things is considered disrespectful.
He also described trying to put the dog in his trunk to show it the Quran. He said dogs are "filthy" and that was why the dog didn’t want to be in the trunk with the holy book....
Initial images on his computer depicted men lighting Molotov cocktails and a cartoon of two bloodied and dead children with a Middle Eastern flag in the background....
What a winner. Like to see the crackpot muslims on this site defend him.

[Ono]

"He also described trying to put the dog in his trunk to show it the Quran. He said dogs are "filthy" and that was why the dog didn’t want to be in the trunk with the holy book....
Initial images on his computer depicted men lighting Molotov cocktails and a cartoon of two bloodied and dead children with a Middle Eastern flag in the background...."

The guy sounds like your average, every day, religious freak fucktard.

[KAOSKTRL]

You kidding sounds like everyone in chandler

[KAOSKTRL]

December 30, 2005

Arab FMs Blast Denmark Over Anti-Prophet Cartoons

In a free society, you have to be willing to accept criticism -- or you don't have a free society. More prophet cartoon (http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=20622) fallout. If only Dick Tracy or Steve Canyon were here to save the day. Or better yet, Mr. Winston S. Churchill. From IslamOnline (http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2005-12/29/article07.shtml), with thanks to Panos:



CAIRO, December 29, 2005 (IslamOnline.net & News Agencies) – Arab foreign ministers on Thursday, December 29, lambasted the Danish government's reaction to the controversial anti-Prophet cartoons published by the country's mass-circulation daily. "The ministers have expressed their surprise and indignation at the reaction of the Danish government, which was disappointing despite its political, economic and cultural ties with the Muslim world," they said in a statement cited by Agence France-Presse (AFP).
Gathered at the Arab League, the ministers decided that Arab League Secretary General Amr Mussa would pursue the matter with the Danish authorities.
Twenty-two former Danish ambassadors, including many who have served in Muslim countries, on Tuesday, December 20, bashed the government over its handling of the crisis.
Liberal Danish Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen has refused to meet eleven Copenhagen-based ambassadors from Muslim countries who wanted to complain about the cartoons and demand an official apology....
The Arab foreign ministers also criticized "European human rights organizations who did not adopt a clear-cut stance on the issue."
Al-Azhar, the highest seat of religious learning in the Sunni world, has vowed to raise the issue of the provocative caricatures with the UN and international human rights organizations.
A five-member delegation representing 21 Islamic centers and organizations in Denmark has recently met Moussa, Grand Imam of Al-Azhar Sheikh Mohammad Sayyed Tantawi and Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Abul-Gheit.
"Support from Arab and Muslim countries will help our demand for an official apology from the Danish government and a promise such violations would not be repeated," Mohamed al-Khalid Samha, the delegation's spokesman, told IOL then.
Abdel Rahman Abu Laban, a prominent Muslim figure in Denmark, told IOL on Friday, November 18, that the Muslim minority in Denmark wants to "internationalize" the issue.

[Tomahawk]

"He also described trying to put the dog in his trunk to show it the Quran. He said dogs are "filthy" and that was why the dog didn’t want to be in the trunk with the holy book....
Initial images on his computer depicted men lighting Molotov cocktails and a cartoon of two bloodied and dead children with a Middle Eastern flag in the background...."

The guy sounds like your average, every day, religious freak fucktard. This can't be ono?!

[KAOSKTRL]

http://today.reuters.com/News/newsAr...ESIA-BLAST.xml (http://today.reuters.com/News/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2005-12-31T025637Z_01_KNE108815_RTRUKOC_0_US-INDONESIA-BLAST.xml)

Quote:
PALU, Indonesia (Reuters) - A suspected bomb blast rocked a crowded market selling pork in eastern Indonesia on Saturday, killing six people and wounding 45, local media reported.

Police said they believed a bomb caused the explosion in the town of Palu, capital of volatile Central Sulawesi province.

The blast comes amid a spate of warnings from authorities about militant violence during the Christmas and New Year season in the world's most populous Muslim nation. Pork is forbidden to Muslims, but eastern Indonesia has large pockets of Christians.

El Shinta news radio station reported that unexploded bombs had also been found in two provinces on Sumatra island in the country's west. The bomb squad had been called to both.

"Our prediction because of the sound of the explosion was that it seems it was a bomb," said Rais Adam, police spokesman for Central Sulawesi, a region plagued by religious violence and tension since the last 1990s.

He did not have a figure for casualties. El Shinta and Metro TV put the death toll at six.

The blast occurred soon after dawn when people were shopping.

Bystanders carried bloodied people onto a nearby road, putting them in passing cars to be taken to hospital. One wounded man screamed as he held up his bloodied arms.

The official Antara news agency said another bomb was found and defused near the site of the first blast in Palu, which lies 1,650 km (1,030 miles) northeast of Jakarta.

Fighting between Muslims and Christians in Central Sulawesi from 1998-2001 killed 2,000 people, mainly around the town of Poso.

While a peace accord halted the bloodshed, violence has erupted sporadically. In one of the worst incidents, three teenage Christian girls were beheaded near Poso last October. Bomb attacks last May in the Central Sulawesi town of Tentena killed 22 people.

Remember folks... Islam = peace and tolerance. __________________

[KAOSKTRL]

December 31, 2005

A few reflections on Wahid's "Right Islam vs. Wrong Islam"

The former President of Indonesia, Abdurrahman Wahid, has published a piece in the Wall Street Journal (http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007743) entitled "Right Islam vs. Wrong Islam: Muslims and non-Muslims must unite to defeat the Wahhabi ideology.
Many, many people sent to me in the course of the day yesterday, asking me to comment; but really, it contains nothing new. It is just more of the kind of analysis we have seen by the bushel since 9/11: Islam is a religion of tolerance and peace, and the big bad Wahhabis are hijacking it into something else. But as I show in my book The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades) (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0895260131/ref=ase_robertspencer-20/103-2502449-0303045?s=books&v=glance&n=283155&tagActionCode=robertspencer-20), and as Andrew Bostom shows in immense detail in The Legacy of Jihad (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1591023076/103-2502449-0303045?v=glance&n=283155&s=books&v=glance&tagActionCode=robertspencer-20), the Wahhabis are neither the originators nor the sole proprieters of the ideology of conquest and supremacism that is Islamic jihad. Certainly they are its most powerful and energetic exponents today, but if anyone thinks the problems that the Islamic world has with non-Muslims would vanish if the Wahhabis somehow disappeared is just whistling in the dark. Even a cursory glance at Iranian Shi'ism should establish that.
Wahid says:

It is time for people of good will from every faith and nation to recognize that a terrible danger threatens humanity. We cannot afford to continue "business as usual" in the face of this existential threat. Rather, we must set aside our international and partisan bickering, and join to confront the danger that lies before us. Agreed.

An extreme and perverse ideology in the minds of fanatics is what directly threatens us (specifically, Wahhabi/Salafi ideology--a minority fundamentalist religious cult fueled by petrodollars). Yet underlying, enabling and exacerbating this threat of religious extremism is a global crisis of misunderstanding. Pretty much the only thing that distinguishes the jihad theology of the Wahhabi/Salafi "minority fundamentalist religious cult" from the jihad theology of all the eight schools of Islamic law (madhahib) is that the Wahhabis are much more willing than the traditional schools to declare other Muslims to be unbelievers and wage jihad against them. The teachings about offering unbelievers conversion, subjugation or death are not significantly different.

All too many Muslims fail to grasp Islam, which teaches one to be lenient towards others and to understand their value systems, knowing that these are tolerated by Islam as a religion. The essence of Islam is encapsulated in the words of the Quran, "For you, your religion; for me, my religion." That is the essence of tolerance. Religious fanatics--either purposely or out of ignorance--pervert Islam into a dogma of intolerance, hatred and bloodshed. They justify their brutality with slogans such as "Islam is above everything else." They seek to intimidate and subdue anyone who does not share their extremist views, regardless of nationality or religion. While a few are quick to shed blood themselves, countless millions of others sympathize with their violent actions, or join in the complicity of silence. "For you, your religion; for me, my religion" is from Sura 109 of the Qur'an. Muslim scholars consider it an early Meccan sura. Traditional Islamic theology has held for centuries that on points of disagreement the later Medinan suras take precedence over the early Meccan ones -- and in what most Muslim authorities consider to be the last sura of all, Surat At-Tawba (sura 9), we find the "Ayat as-Seif" (Verse of the Sword, verse 5) and the call to wage war against Jews and Christians until they submit as inferiors under Islamic rule (verse 29). The idea that sura 109 must be understood in light of this material was not invented by Wahhabis: it is taught by the great medieval Qur'an commentator Ibn Kathir; by As-Suyuti, another revered commentator, and by many others.
Does Wahid not know all this, or does he just hope we don't? The jihadists have a coherent, developed, and traditionally-based theology explaining why they take sura 9 over 109. Does Wahid have a coherent theology explaining why Muslims should take 109 over 9 and leave non-believers in peace? If he does, he should share it with the world, which needs it desperately. But he gives no hint of it in the Wall Street Journal.

This crisis of misunderstanding--of Islam by Muslims themselves--is compounded by the failure of governments, people of other faiths, and the majority of well-intentioned Muslims to resist, isolate and discredit this dangerous ideology. The crisis thus afflicts Muslims and non-Muslims alike, with tragic consequences. Failure to understand the true nature of Islam permits the continued radicalization of Muslims world-wide, while blinding the rest of humanity to a solution which hides in plain sight. Great. Then let's see you do it. Let's see you fight among Muslims what you call the Wahhabi theology, and teach that Muslims and non-Muslims should live together as equals in peace.

The most effective way to overcome Islamist extremism is to explain what Islam truly is to Muslims and non-Muslims alike. Without that explanation, people will tend to accept the unrefuted extremist view--further radicalizing Muslims, and turning the rest of the world against Islam itself. Unrefuted is right.

Accomplishing this task will be neither quick nor easy. In recent decades, Wahhabi/Salafi ideology has made substantial inroads throughout the Muslim world. Islamic fundamentalism has become a well-financed, multifaceted global movement that operates like a juggernaut in much of the developing world, and even among immigrant Muslim communities in the West. To neutralize the virulent ideology that underlies fundamentalist terrorism and threatens the very foundations of modern civilization, we must identify its advocates, understand their goals and strategies, evaluate their strengths and weaknesses, and effectively counter their every move. What we are talking about is nothing less than a global struggle for the soul of Islam. Yes, we are. And bland platitudes is all we have gotten so far. Much, much more is needed.

The Sunni (as opposed to Shiite) fundamentalists' goals generally include: claiming to restore the perfection of the early Islam practiced by Muhammad and his companions, who are known in Arabic as al-Salaf al-Salih, "the Righteous Ancestors"; establishing a utopian society based on these Salafi principles, by imposing their interpretation of Islamic law on all members of society; annihilating local variants of Islam in the name of authenticity and purity; transforming Islam from a personal faith into an authoritarian political system; establishing a pan-Islamic caliphate governed according to the strict tenets of Salafi Islam, and often conceived as stretching from Morocco to Indonesia and the Philippines; and, ultimately, bringing the entire world under the sway of their extremist ideology. This is the kind of thing that makes me suspicious. "Transforming Islam from a personal faith into an authoritarian political system"? But Islam has never been a personal faith as opposed to a political system. It has always had a political dimension, and has never accepted the sacred/secular distinction. This kind of thing makes me wonder if Wahid is just engaging in the same kind of deceptive analysis we have seen so much of already. And another thing: Morocco to Indonesia and the Philippines? What about Spain and Western Europe? And the U.S.A.? The jihadists have made clear their global intentions. Why not speak plainly about this?

Fundamentalist strategy is often simple as well as brilliant. Extremists are quick to drape themselves in the mantle of Islam and declare their opponents kafir, or infidels, and thus smooth the way for slaughtering nonfundamentalist Muslims. Their theology rests upon a simplistic, literal and highly selective reading of the Quran and Sunnah (prophetic traditions), through which they seek to entrap the world-wide Muslim community in the confines of their narrow ideological grasp. Expansionist by nature, most fundamentalist groups constantly probe for weakness and an opportunity to strike, at any time or place, to further their authoritarian goals. Fine. Show us, please, instead of telling us, as we have already heard so many times, exactly how Wahhabi theology is based on a "simplistic, literal and highly selective reading of the Quran and Sunnah." If you could just explain this once, with honest, straightforward reference to Islamic history and theology, it would go so far to dispelling suspicion and making people of good will really open to working with you.

Those who seek to promote a peaceful and tolerant understanding of Islam must overcome the paralyzing effects of inertia, and harness a number of actual or potential strengths, which can play a key role in neutralizing fundamentalist ideology. These strengths not only are assets in the struggle with religious extremism, but in their mirror form they point to the weakness at the heart of fundamentalist ideology. They are: 1) Human dignity, which demands freedom of conscience and rejects the forced imposition of religious views;
And yet, Mr. Wahid, the denial of freedom of conscience goes back to Muhammad's baddala deenahu, faqtuhulu -- If anyone changes his religion, kill him (cf. Bukhari vol. 9, bk. 84, no. 57) and the death penalty for apostates is still taught by non-Wahhabi Muslim theologians. Please explain how you intend to overcome the influence of this.

2) the ability to mobilize immense resources to bring to bear on this problem, once it is identified and a global commitment is made to solve it; 3) the ability to leverage resources by supporting individuals and organizations that truly embrace a peaceful and tolerant Islam; 4) nearly 1,400 years of Islamic traditions and spirituality, which are inimical to fundamentalist ideology; That needs to be spelled out, if true -- and there is a good deal of evidence that it isn't true.

5) appeals to local and national--as well as Islamic--culture/traditions/pride; 6) the power of the feminine spirit, and the fact that half of humanity consists of women, who have an inherent stake in the outcome of this struggle; Please explain also Mr. Wahid how you intend to overcome this. The Qur'an, after all:
1. Likens a woman to a field (tilth), to be used by a man as he wills: "Your women are a tilth for you (to cultivate) so go to your tilth as ye will" (2:223);
2. Declares that a woman's testimony is worth half that of a man: "Get two witnesses, out of your own men, and if there are not two men, then a man and two women, such as ye choose, for witnesses, so that if one of them errs, the other can remind her" (2:282);
3. Allows men to marry up to four wives, and have sex with slave girls also: "If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, marry women of your choice, two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice" (4:3);
4. Rules that a son's inheritance should be twice the size of that of a daughter: "Allah (thus) directs you as regards your children's (inheritance): to the male, a portion equal to that of two females" (4:11);
5. Tells husbands to beat their disobedient wives: "Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them" (4:34).
What was that again about the power of the feminine spirit?
I am not saying that Wahid is trying to deceive us. But if he isn't, he needs to address the obvious gaping holes in his analysis and recommendations. And the world at large needs to know about those gaping holes. The Wall Street Journal should have known better than to publish this shallow and misleading piece -- but everyone is so hungry these days for the soothing syrup of Islamic moderation and reason that they will swallow any kind of trumped-up counterfeit without a second thought.
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[KAOSKTRL]

December 31, 2005

Bomb targets Indonesian Christians

Looks like the fears of increased jihadist violence against Indonesian Christians during the holiday season were warranted, according to the Associated Press (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/30/AR2005123001754.html):

A bomb ripped through a crowded meat market Saturday in an Indonesian province that has been plagued by sectarian violence, killing at least eight people and wounding 45, officials said. Many of the victims were believed to be Christians. The attack occurred in the town of Palu on Sulawesi island as people were preparing for New Year's Eve celebrations, flocking to the morning market that sold and slaughtered pigs, said Brig. Gen. Oegroseno, police chief of Central Sulawesi province.
The bomb appeared to be a homemade device, he said, loaded with ball bearings and nails to maximize the number casualties.
"The explosion was so loud, I couldn't hear for a couple of seconds," said Tega, a resident who lives nearby and uses only one name, like many Indonesians. "I ran out of my house and saw bodies lying around."

[KAOSKTRL]

January 02, 2006

Iran: Europe wanted to complete Holocaust

Iran's Thug-In-Chief reiterates his ideological affinity with the author of Mein Kampf. From AP (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3193425,00.html), with thanks to all who sent this in:

Hard-line Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who said the Nazi attempt to eradicate Jews in the Holocaust was a “Myth,” has now charged that European countries sought to complete the genocide by establishing Israel, a Jewish state in the midst of Muslim countries. “Don’t you think that continuation of genocide by expelling Jews from Europe was one of their (the Europeans’) aims in creating a regime of occupiers of Al-Quds (Jerusalem)?” the official Islamic Republic News agency quoted Ahmadinejad as saying.
“Isn’t that an important question?”
'Anti-Semitic sentiment was a European tradition'
Ahmadinejad said Europeans had decided to create a “Jewish camp” as the best means for ridding the continent of Jews and said the camp, Israel, now enjoyed support from the United States and Europe in what he termed the slaughter of Muslims.
Last month, Ahmadinejad said the Holocaust, in which Nazi Germany killed six million Jews, was a myth. After global outrage over the comments, he said that Europeans, if they persisted in reality of the slaughter, should cede some of their territory for a Jewish state.
In October, Ahmadinejad called for Israel to be “Wiped off the map.”
The fiery Iranian president said anti-Semitic sentiment was a strong and long-term European tradition while Jews had lived peacefully among Muslims for centuries.
According to the ISNA news agency, Ahmadinejad said the crimes committed by Zionists against the Palestinians were the same as the crimes committed by the Nazis in the Second World War.
“The one question to be clarified by the West is what crimes did they commit in those days (World War Two) what the Zionists are not doing today,” Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying by ISNA.
'They have shot two targets with a single bullet'
The Iranian president said Judaism should be distinguished from Zionism, asserting that Jews in Islamic countries like Iran have always lived in security with religious freedom and will do so in the future.
Sure. As despised dhimmis, as unclean as pigs and excrement (http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/005438.php).

[RSade]

Aren't you aware that the model for us all, the Prophet Mohammed and the four rightful caliphs, undertook to murder infidels as one of their primary activities, and that the Prophet waged jihad operations 77 times in the first 10 years as head of the Muslim community in Medina?" "


A monkey can pull a trigger and we Christians have our monkeys too, witness the AOG army of God, its time for a change....the bible says it aint gonna happen, says we are going to end up in a valley over there in the middle east in a stinkin' valley in blood as deep as our waist, says that the sun is going to touch the earth, says that if Jesus didn't come back to stop our stupid shit that all flesh would be destroyed, says that two-thirds of the flesh is destroyed anyhow, says that we still have a chance, HEY ahhhhh' we must cant read, we must be sorta the dumb and dumbest species that has existed ... I dont blame a god that would destroy us and attempt somthing new.

I like that style, say yes I do

[KAOSKTRL]

January 04, 2006

Fitzgerald: Let us not exaggerate Turkey's wonderfulness

Jihad Watch Board Vice President Hugh Fitzgerald offers some much-needed observations about what Turkey has been and what it is now:

During the Cold War, Turkish behavior was obscured. Turkey offered bases and listening posts -- to be directed at its historic enemy, Russia. Thus, for good and sufficient reasons of its own, Turkey collaborated. It sent Turkish soldiers to Korea (where they left behind thousands of Korean converts to Islam -- still a potential security problem). The United States, in turn, resolutely ignored the failure of the Turks to begin to start to even try to recognize the mere existence of the Armenian genocide. Certainly no one was about to discover that what prompted that genocide was not something inherent in Turks, but the hatred felt for non-Muslims. Anyone reading the eyewitness accounts, either of the first genocide of 1894-96, or the second much larger one of 1915-1920, cannot fail to notice how often the word "giavour" or Infidel was shouted, and with what glee Armenians priests were crucified and their wives and daughters raped.
In 1955, when the pogrom smack in the middle of Istanbul took place against the Greeks, the American State Department praised the Turkish government for its actions in bringing things under "control," rather than denouncing or even analyzing those acts -- which were prompted by the attitudes that Islam necessarily encourages.

As for the belief of assorted Turkish antisemites that Turkey has always been "good to the Jews," this is nonsense. The Jews who settled in Salonika after their expulsion from Spain replaced a previous community of Jews whom the Ottomans had displaced, and it was not generosity but raison d'etat that prompted this: the Jews were felt to be less of a threat than Christians. What's more, they could dilute the Christian position in Salonika and possibly could be expected, as a weak and isolated community, to more readily do the bidding of the Ottoman government, as grateful and economically active dhimmis (not to mention the fact that the padishahin, or Sultans, always took Jewish doctors, believing them to be superior in their knowledge -- you can even find note taken of this in the Topkapi compound). But Jews in the Balkans were subject to the forced levy of children, or devshirme, though few seem to recall this. And Jews were subject to all the legal disabilities that other non-Muslim populations suffered from. But in the fantasy world of Turkish belief, one in which some Jewish commentators have willingly participated, the Jews of Turkey were treated practically like kith and kin.
For another illustration of the real Turkish behavior, on December 12, 1941 the dilapidated and leaking Struma, a ship loaded with more than 800 desperate Jewish refugees from the Nazis, left the Rumanian port of Constanta. A few days later the engine died. It was eventually towed into the harbor of Istanbul, and then, once more after a brief period, the Turks, not wishing to offend the Germans, towed the ship out into international waters. On February 12, 1942 an explosion -- very likely caused by the Soviet navy, which had been ordered by Stalin to attack any ship entering the Black Sea beyond Turkish waters -- caused the ship to sink. More than 800 people died. There was one survivor. The Turks might have let those refugees land, but did not. That failure belies the claims of Turks that they have always befriended the Jews.
As for the experience of the Jews of Palestine under Turkish rule, the local Turkish satrap was making plans for genocide on the Armenian model when World War I intervened. Nonetheless, Turkish behavior during the war led half the Jewish population to leave the area that would become Mandatory Palestine. During the war the famous agronomist Aronsohn, his sister Sarah Aronsohn, and others provided intelligence to the British that was far more valuable (as British intelligence agents explicitly recognized) than the few hundred horsemen, exaggerated into a "100,000 men," that Abdullah provided T. E. Lawrence. Those horsemen did little more than harry, ineffectively, the Turks on the Hejaz railway line. The Aronsohns and other members of the Nili Group (as it was called) were caught and killed; Sarah Aronsohn was tortured, but managed to commit suicide to prevent worse.
That a handful of prominent Jewish refugees did spend the war in Turkey, and some -- one thinks of Erich Auerbach, who re-wrote his important literary study "Mimesis" from scratch after having lost the first draft -- were grateful to the Turkish government. And one can still find, in those used bookstores along Istiqlal Caddesi, the odd volumes belonging to German Jewish scholars who continued to live in Turkey well into the 1960s and even 1970s, and then gradually, died out.
But let us not exaggerate Turkey's wonderfulness. A collective letter about Turkish antisemitism, signed by Turkish intellectuals, including Mustafa Akyol (who has taken a few whacks at this site for criticism of his attempt to suggest that Islam can be easily reformed, by tinkering here and there, in some unspecified fashion, with the contents of Sira and Hadith), recently appeared. There were some prominent Turks -- Orhan Pamuk among them -- who did not sign that letter.
Why not? And why now is that same Orhan Pamuk about to be tried for daring to mention the Armenian genocide -- or if in the end he is not tried, it will only be out of the desire not to scare the women, the horses, and the inhabitants of the E.U.

[KAOSKTRL]

January 05, 2006

Son killed 'for not changing to Islam'

An update on this story (http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/008008.php) from The Telegraph (http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&xml=/news/2006/01/05/nshot05.xml), with thanks to Sparta and S.:

A mother described yesterday hearing her son shot dead after he refused to convert to Islam. Ruth Marriott told an inquest into her son's death that she heard gunshots on the day Adrian was shot five times in the head a few weeks before his 21st birthday.
Mr Marriott, an accountancy student and gang member, was killed in a park near his home in Brixton, south London, in June 2004.
Three members of a rival gang, known as the Muslim Boys, were cleared in September last year of conspiracy to murder Mr Marriott after the prosecution offered no evidence at the Old Bailey.
His mother told the inquest at Southwark Coroners' Court yesterday: "We heard the shooting. We heard gun fire....
"Adrian was told on the Sunday prior to his death that he would be killed if he did not become a Muslim by the Wednesday, which was the day he died."
Asked by the coroner, John Sampson, whether her son had taken the threat seriously, Mrs Marriott said: "I do not think he did."
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[RSade]

Ya all dont get it do ya? all killing is a sin in the eyes of god.

[KAOSKTRL]

January 08, 2006

Gunmen burn coed Afghan school

Women's rights in Islam update from Afghanistan. From AP (http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/01/08/afghan.school.burned.ap/), with thanks to Cindy:

KANDAHAR, Afghanistan (AP) -- Suspected Taliban gunmen destroyed a coed primary school in the main southern Afghan city Sunday, first tying up two security guards before setting the buildings on fire, officials said. The attack in Kandahar was the latest in a spate of assaults that have forced many schools to close. The insurgents claim that educating girls is against Islam and they even oppose government-funded schools for boys because they teach subjects besides religion.
Suspected Taliban insurgents last Tuesday beheaded the headmaster of another coed school in the region.
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[Sage]

Genocide in Darfur is the most recent chapter of a much longer story of violence and oppression in Sudan.

Sudan has a long history of enslavement of its predominantly black African Christian and animist peoples in the south by the more militarily and politically powerful Arab-Islamic minority in the north. Civil war and egregious human rights violations have dominated the national life since the country became independent from Britain 60 years ago. These have become particularly acute in the past 21 years since the militant jihadist dictator Omar al-Bashir took power in a coup in 1989.

The civil war between the north and south is grounded in many differences, ranging from religion and culture to race and disparities in indigenous resources. Compounding these, British colonial rule emphasized northern development, education and infrastructure but largely ignored the South, which was also politically marginalized. As the northern Arabs established an Islamic fundamentalist dictatorship after the British relinquished control, the South rebelled with demands for representation, freedom of religious conscience, and cultural independence.

With the belief in their cultural supremacy and a mandate from God, Arab Islamists from the north set out on a jihad to destroy the African Christians in the South. This first genocide was orchestrated by Muslim Arabs who recruited African Muslims from the western Darfur region of Sudan to fight in the jihad against the South. From 1955 to 1973, 1.5 million black African southerners were killed and nearly 4 million were displaced. The second genocide, from 1983 until a fragile peace treaty was signed only several months ago, killed 2 million more and displaced 6 million. Hundreds of thousands were also abducted into slavery, fled, and remain unaccounted for. The total number of refugees is the largest in any country since WWII.

Today, the tables have turned. The same Muslim Arabs from the north are now conducting their Islamic jihad against the black African Muslims in Darfur, their former allies in the war in the south. The Janjaweed, the government-backed Arab militias, are killing, slaughtering, raping, and pillaging with new vigor. Since 2003, it is estimated that 300,000-500,000 have been killed and over 2 million have been displaced. Despite the scale of the genocide, the international community continues to stand by, virtually inactive.

[KAOSKTRL]

January 08, 2006

Readers Digest European of the Year: Hirsi Ali

It's not your mother's Readers Digest (http://www.readersdigest.co.uk/rd-european-of-the-year-2006-i-52.html) anymore, or maybe it still is. Thanks to Interested.

Ayaan Hirsi Ali risks her life to fight for oppressed women in her adopted country—and in Britain, too When Somali-born Dutch MP Ayaan Hirsi Ali took part in a television programme about Islamic Sharia law in 2003, she ended up contributing much more than her opinion on Islam and its treatment of women. A young woman from a Muslim family told the programme makers she was in fear of her life from her relatives who hit her and called her a whore for wanting to go out with her friends and wearing western clothes. Hirsi Ali listened to her story, then took the young woman to the police, only to be told: “We can’t help you. There are so many girls like you and this is not police work.”
It is not usually a politician’s job to look after threatened Muslim girls either, but that is what Ayaan Hirsi Ali did. She took the girl into her own home for nearly a year, enabling her to finish higher education. “She encouraged me every day,” says her prot&#233;g&#233;e, who now has a job and her own flat. “Because of her I am stronger. It’s very difficult and dangerous for women from my community to speak out. Ayaan does that for us. We need her.”
Ayaan Hirsi Ali, 36, believes passionately that showing Europeans what goes on in some Muslim homes in our midst will kick-start a process of emancipation. “If only people, including those in Britain, were aware of the sheer number of girls living in terror,” she says. “Just going outside without your father or your brother’s permission can lead to your being taken to the home country of your parents and being shot dead. You can be forced into marriage with someone who’s going to rape you every night. You will conceive children year after year when you don’t want to be pregnant.”...
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[Sage]

muslim Womans Activist Speaks Out!

VIDEO On islamic Marraige and The Condonning Of Sex With Small Girls and Babies as Permitted By islamic law

http://www.memritv.org/search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=978#

oh, BTW the article is the same woman now on trial for her stand on womans issues, and her stand against islamic sharia family law.

Ghada Jamshir has been put on trial, accused of defaming Sharia law and insulting an Islamic judge. She, leading her women’s rights conclave, lobbied for a personal status law which would shift jurisdiction over family and women’s affairs to civil courts.

When she went to court, she was accompanied by her women activist supporters.

The judge read out three charges against her: public defaming of Islamic judiciary through distribution of literature, insulting a judge and defaming him.

Of course Ghada Jamshir plead innocent.

"The charge of insulting a Sharia judge during a phone call is fabricated," she said.

"All these charges against me have been compiled since 2001 because of a vigil we [committee] organized two months ago, in which we demanded the resignation of the general prosecutor," she said, instigating a round of applause from the female audience in the courtroom.

Ghada Jamshir’s group collected 1700 signatures demanding legislative and judicial reforms to family courts.

"I do not care if I go to prison, because we already live in a big prison. I will never stop, nor go silent nor give up my position," she said. She sought to ban Shairia judges from dealing with marriage contracts.

"The uncodified nature of these laws gives judges the authority to render judgments according to their own reading of Islamic jurisprudence," Human Rights Watch reported.

One admirer of Ghada Jamshir asked: "Why don't more feminists support women like this, and women generally in the Islamic world? I know Jay Leno's wife, a liberal feminist, was a pretty big advocate for women in Afghanistan ; I just wish there were more like her.

"Why do we only hear about this woman from MEMRI? Why doesn't Katie Freaking Couric interview her on the Today Show?"

Copyright © 2005 by J. Grant Swank, Jr.

[KAOSKTRL]

"Islam's enemies want to empty our religion from its contents and its meaning. But the soldiers of God will be victorious"

"Islam's enemies want to empty our religion from its contents and its meaning." That is, cut out the parts about violent jihad and the subjugation of infidels. But Sheik Abdul-Aziz al-Sheik, the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, isn't about to let that happen -- and neither are the hajj pilgrims who listened to his sermon.
Islamic Reform/Snowball In Hell Alert: "Hajj Pilgrims Told of War on Islam" from AP (http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,181069,00.html), with thanks to the Constantinopolitan Irredentist:

MOUNT ARAFAT, Saudi Arabia — More than 2 million Muslim pilgrims from 178 countries prayed for salvation Monday at Mount Arafat, Islam's most sacred site, where Saudi Arabia's top cleric declared the West was conducting a "war against our creed."... Sheik Abdul-Aziz al-Sheik, the kingdom's grand mufti, said Muslims faced critical challenges, among them accusations of terrorism and human rights abuses and calls for revisions in their school textbooks.
"Oh, Muslim nation, there is a war against of our creed, against our culture under the pretext of fighting terrorism. We should stand firm and united in protecting our religion," he said, speaking at a mosque on the plain of Mount Arafat.
"Islam's enemies want to empty our religion from its contents and its meaning. But the soldiers of God will be victorious," said al-Sheik, the Saudi kingdom's top religious authority.
The faithful called out: "Amen!"
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[RSade]

A STATMENT OF FACT OF MURDER OF DEATH

WAR IS SIN,ALL WAR, ALL WAR IS MURDER, ALL MURDER IS SIN,KILLING IS WAR,KLLING IS SIN, TO ALL GODS. WAR, AND KILLING IS SIN TO GOD, KILLERS ARE MURDERERS, TO GOD, WAR IS SIN , MURDER IS SIN , KILLING IS SIN ,TO SUPPORT MURDER IS SIN, TO SUPPORT KILLLING IS SIN, TO SUPORT KILLING IS TO SUPPORT MURDER AND SIN,DO YOU LOVE WAR? DO YOU SUPPORT WAR DO YOU LOVE MURDER ? IF SO KILL YOURSELF! AND DO EARTH AND THE UNIVERSE A FAVOR, BE A MURDER STATISTIC BY YOUR OWN HAND, I WILL JOIN YOU IN HELL


PEACE ON EARTH

[KAOSKTRL]

There is one God
Islam requires killing.

[Sage]

http://www.wincoast.com/forum/showpost.php?p=498495&postcount=1

[Terdarmo]

There is one God
Islam requires killing.

And Christianity too.

Killing and damning them to a make believe eternity of torture.

All this fighting over who has the best imaginary friend is cute, but so immature. Why does it have us all so rapt?

[KAOSKTRL]

And Christianity too.

Killing and damning them to a make believe eternity of torture.

All this fighting over who has the best imaginary friend is cute, but so immature. Why does it have us all so rapt?Please prtovide the Christian equvolent of Shirk is worse than Killing
Since Jihad involves killing and shedding the blood of men, Allah indicated that these men are committing disbelief in Allah, associating with Him (in the worship) and hindering from His path, and this is a much greater evil and more disastrous than killing. Abu Malik commented about what Allah said:


(And Al-Fitnah is worse than killing.) Meaning what you (disbelievers) are committing is much worse than killing.'' Abu Al-`Aliyah, Mujahid, Sa`id bin Jubayr, `Ikrimah, Al-Hasan, Qatadah, Ad-Dahhak and Ar-Rabi` bin Anas said that what Allah said:
(And Al-Fitnah is worse than killing.) "Shirk (polytheism) is worse than killing.''
http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=2&tid=5008

[Terdarmo]

Please prtovide the Christian equvolent of Shirk is worse than Killing
Since Jihad involves killing and shedding the blood of men, Allah indicated that these men are committing disbelief in Allah, associating with Him (in the worship) and hindering from His path, and this is a much greater evil and more disastrous than killing. Abu Malik commented about what Allah said:


(And Al-Fitnah is worse than killing.) Meaning what you (disbelievers) are committing is much worse than killing.'' Abu Al-`Aliyah, Mujahid, Sa`id bin Jubayr, `Ikrimah, Al-Hasan, Qatadah, Ad-Dahhak and Ar-Rabi` bin Anas said that what Allah said:
(And Al-Fitnah is worse than killing.) "Shirk (polytheism) is worse than killing.''
http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=2&tid=5008


The Christian equivalent? I think in the ten, God said he was numero uno, I'm pretty sure it came before thou shalt not murder. I could be wrong.

[KAOSKTRL]

SO you cant.

[Terdarmo]

SO you cant.

Technically, shooting someone in the head, for no particular reason, is forgiveable in Christianity.

HOWever, saying "The holy spirit sucks ass!" is not forgivable.

Pretty equivalent to me.

Indeed, I can.

:love_02:

[KAOSKTRL]

But the Christian Scripture doesnt say to kill people, it does in Islam.
You cant get there from here.

[Terdarmo]

But the Christian Scripture doesnt say to kill people, it does in Islam.
You cant get there from here.

Are you looking for new testament scripture that says to kill people, or old testament scripture that says to kill people? I would be hard pressed to find new testament that says it, but the OT is chock full. And don't say that the OT is not Christian, because if it weren't so important, it wouldn't be part of the bible anymore.

Leviticus tells me I can KILL MY CHILDREN if they cuss at me.

[KAOSKTRL]

Thats OT thats not Christian doctrine.
The OT proves the need for a messiah because no could follow the laws and the laws dont bring salvation or removale of sin.

[Terdarmo]

Thats OT thats not Christian doctrine.
The OT proves the need for a messiah because no could follow the laws and the laws dont bring salvation or removale of sin.

So you believe nothing from the old testament, or do you just pick and choose which scriptures you keep? You know, like, keep the ten commandments and the anti faggot verses, but botch the ones that say kill your kids if they cuss at you.

Just curious as to why the old testament is even in the bible if it's of no importance anymore.

[KAOSKTRL]

It is there to provide context.
Historical events relationships time place texture.

[Sage]

Are you looking for new testament scripture that says to kill people, or old testament scripture that says to kill people? I would be hard pressed to find new testament that says it, but the OT is chock full. And don't say that the OT is not Christian, because if it weren't so important, it wouldn't be part of the bible anymore.

Leviticus tells me I can KILL MY CHILDREN if they cuss at me.

Gal 3:24 "Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith."


And early in the morning He came again into the Temple and all the people came unto Him; and He sat down, and taught them."


"And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto Him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, They say unto Him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.

Now Moses in the Law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest Thou?"

"This they said, tempting Him, that they might have to accuse Him."

"But Jesus stooped down, and with His finger wrote on the ground, as though He heard them not. So when they continued asking Him, He lifted up Himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. And again He stooped down, and wrote on the ground."

"And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst."

"When Jesus had lifted up Himself, and saw none but the woman, He said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? Hath no man condemned thee?"

"She said, No man, Lord."
"And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more." (John 8:2-11 KJV)

-----------------------------
“If you love me, you will keep my commandments.” (John 14.15)

“If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commandments and abide in his love.” (John 15.10)

“By this we may be sure that we know him, if we keep his commandments.” (I John 2.3)

“All who keep his commandments abide in him, and he in them. And by this we know that he abides in us, by the Spirit which he has given us.” (I John 3.24)

“For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome.” (I John 5.3)

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“I come not to change the law or the prophets but to fullfill them” Jesus said.

[KAOSKTRL]

January 10, 2006

West scaring away people from Islam: Saudi cleric

The big bad old West keeps associating Islam with terrorism. Imagine that. Osama? Abu Bakar Bashir? Abu Hamza? Omar Bakri? Zarqawi? Zawahiri? Fawaz Damra? Ahmed Omar Abu Ali? Etc. etc. etc.? Never heard of 'em. From the Times of India (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1366000.cms), with thanks to Hari:

MECCA (Saudi Arabia): A top Saudi cleric told Muslim pilgrims marking the climax of Haj on Tuesday that the West was using the global phenomenon of terrorism to scare people away from Islam and discredit legitimate Muslim causes. Sheikh Abdul Rahman al-Sudeis, the state-appointed preacher at the Grand Mosque in Mecca, also called for stability in Iraq and said Islam was innocent of the charge of "terrorism".
"The campaign against Islam has become fierce and Muslims are being described in insulting terms to distort the image of Islam and scare people away from it," he told the 2.5 million pilgrims in a sermon to mark the Muslim feast of Eid al-Adha.
He accused Western countries of hypocrisy in promoting freedom and democracy, citing the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
"When the oppressor Zionist enemy uses its war of smart bombs and tanks against our brothers in Palestine, violating our holy sites, that's not terrorism to their mind - but defending land, religion and honour is," Sudeis said....
"Islam is innocent of this grave phenomenon (of terrorism). The shedding of blood in this country and other Muslim countries is a forbidden criminal act," the cleric said, adding that fighting Islamic rulers was "foolish" and counterproductive....
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[RSade]

Thats OT thats not Christian doctrine.
The OT proves the need for a messiah because no could follow the laws and the laws dont bring salvation or removale of sin.


Yes, I agree, and remember according to the vast majority of Christians, Jesus WAS God so I figure he knew what he was doing. I agree that Jesus was God...nevertheless, I feel that he did NOT have full turbo God power nor a God brain, just some God stuff...he was human you know....

Terdamoto nothing personal just what I believe, however, according to the last fundie , I'm gonna split hell wide open, I am condemned by some Christians as well as the synners of the world .

God will be my judge

[Camp]

January 10, 2006

West scaring away people from Islam: Saudi cleric

The big bad old West keeps associating Islam with terrorism. Imagine that. Osama? Abu Bakar Bashir? Abu Hamza? Omar Bakri? Zarqawi? Zawahiri? Fawaz Damra? Ahmed Omar Abu Ali? Etc. etc. etc.? Never heard of 'em. From the Times of India (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1366000.cms), with thanks to Hari:

MECCA (Saudi Arabia): A top Saudi cleric told Muslim pilgrims marking the climax of Haj on Tuesday that the West was using the global phenomenon of terrorism to scare people away from Islam and discredit legitimate Muslim causes. Sheikh Abdul Rahman al-Sudeis, the state-appointed preacher at the Grand Mosque in Mecca, also called for stability in Iraq and said Islam was innocent of the charge of "terrorism".
"The campaign against Islam has become fierce and Muslims are being described in insulting terms to distort the image of Islam and scare people away from it," he told the 2.5 million pilgrims in a sermon to mark the Muslim feast of Eid al-Adha.
He accused Western countries of hypocrisy in promoting freedom and democracy, citing the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
"When the oppressor Zionist enemy uses its war of smart bombs and tanks against our brothers in Palestine, violating our holy sites, that's not terrorism to their mind - but defending land, religion and honour is," Sudeis said....
"Islam is innocent of this grave phenomenon (of terrorism). The shedding of blood in this country and other Muslim countries is a forbidden criminal act," the cleric said, adding that fighting Islamic rulers was "foolish" and counterproductive....
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This two-faced dribble isn't going to cut it anymore. You awoke the civilized peoples of the world and now we see past the lies. History, evidence, and the koran torpedo all the nicey-nicey talk I hear from the islamic spokesmouths, especially CAIR.

[KAOSKTRL]

January 11, 2006

Hamza 'urged followers to murder'

Imam Hook Trial Update, from the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4602054.stm), with thanks to John and Mick:



Muslim cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri told his followers it was their "religious duty to kill" non-Muslims, jurors heard as his trial began at the Old Bailey. David Perry, prosecuting, said a "terrorism manual" was found at the cleric's home in London in May 2004.
It explained how to make explosives and organise a terrorist unit, he said.
Abu Hamza, 47, denies 15 charges including having a document "useful" to a terrorist and soliciting people to murder non-Muslims....
He is also accused of threatening behaviour with intent to incite racial hatred.
Mr Perry said Mr Abu Hamza railed against alcohol, adultery, democracy and said Muslims had an "obligation" to fight and kill kuffar (non-believers)....
"You will hear the tapes and we will hear that the defendant, Sheikh Abu Hamza, encouraged his listeners, whether they were an audience at a private meeting or a congregation at the mosque, to believe that it was part of a religious duty to fight in the cause of Allah, God, and as part of the religious duty to fight in the cause of Allah, it was part of the religious duty to kill."
See Qur'an 2:190-193; 9:5, 9:29; and a host of others.

Mr Perry said the cleric preached "intolerance, bigotry and hatred", especially against Jewish people. The prosecutor stressed the case was "not a trial against Islam", or against its holy book, the Koran, but had been brought "because of what the defendant said"....
Hmmm. But what if what he said tallies with what is in the Qur'an?
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[Terdarmo]

So everything from the old testament is just a history lesson? You mean we don't have to follow the ten commandments anymore? How specific was Jesus about which laws he was rewriting and which would remain in effect?

[Sage]

So everything from the old testament is just a history lesson? You mean we don't have to follow the ten commandments anymore? How specific was Jesus about which laws he was rewriting and which would remain in effect?

Matthew 22:36-39

36: Master, which is the great commandment in the law?

37: Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

38: This is the first and great commandment.

39: And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

40: On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

[Terdarmo]

Matthew 22:36-39

36: Master, which is the great commandment in the law?

37: Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

38: This is the first and great commandment.

39: And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

40: On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Wow. Out of that I get love the lord, and love your neighbor, and all is gravy.

So those two replaced the ten? Do all verses in the bible grow more vague as the pages turn? I think that leaves room for a bunch of loopholes and distortion and misinterpretation.

He didn't say anything else was a sin? Wouldn't that mean that adultery and gluttony and greed and homosexuality and all the other "sins" would be ok, as long as the "sinner" loves God and his neighbors, he's cool? I'm just curious.

[Sage]

Wow. Out of that I get love the lord, and love your neighbor, and all is gravy.

gravey? not sure what you mean by that.


So those two replaced the ten?

alot more than ten..
not replaced, fulfilled.


Do all verses in the bible grow more vague as the pages turn?

what is it that you see as vague, looks pretty clear to me.


I think that leaves room for a bunch of loopholes and distortion and misinterpretation.

it leaves no room for anything, it is clear as day. as far as distortion etc..that would be nothing new, people do that all the time. However, the Bible interprets itself, scripture interprets scripture. its not open to personal interpretation.




2 Peter 1:20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of private interpretation.




He didn't say anything else was a sin?

what do you want a list of the manifestations of sin?


Wouldn't that mean that adultery and gluttony and greed and homosexuality and all the other "sins" would be ok, as long as the "sinner" loves God and his neighbors, he's cool? I'm just curious.

if you loved God would you be going out and practicing adultery, gluttony, homosexuality?

if you loved your neighbor would you be going out and commiting such acts against them?

[RSade]

He didn't say anything else was a sin?

Sin is like the term evolution Ms T. Its difficult to corner anyone on a precise definition. Finally I come to the conclusion that sin is anything that harms man. That is a blanket statement but a true one. Example;

ahhhhh' I dont feel so fuckin' good .......

(oh shit some of the usual suspect duckie's here synner, love lost, V for vindesil, sage, cannot fathom what an example is),...

that (the above) made me want to vomit for sure....wait....Reeeehahhhhhh

Im not going to vomit Im not going to......UrrrrrrrPPPPP ......

I will save the example

[Terdarmo]

gravey? not sure what you mean by that.



alot more than ten..
not replaced, fulfilled.



what is it that you see as vague, looks pretty clear to me.



it leaves no room for anything, it is clear as day. as far as distortion etc..that would be nothing new, people do that all the time. However, the Bible interprets itself, scripture interprets scripture. its not open to personal interpretation.




2 Peter 1:20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of private interpretation.





what do you want a list of the manifestations of sin?



if you loved God would you be going out and practicing adultery, gluttony, homosexuality?

if you loved your neighbor would you be going out and commiting such acts against them?

So if I eat a gallon of Ice cream, it means that I don't love God?

What about homosexuality? How does that hurt my fellow man OR God?

So if we are not able to privately interpret the scripture, which evangelist are we supposed to take as gospel interpretation? How do I know your interpretation isn't just another private one?

And thank you for that scripture regarding private interpretation; you just helped me understand that all the laws the Catholics made regarding the issuance of bibles was actually scripturally based. I'll have to remember that verse for Fuzzi.

Do you think that killing a man who's pointing a gun at your friend is a sin?

There's ALL kinds of room for twisting. So is that twisting okay as long as it's in public? Do I need to hold a sign in the middle of New York for my interpretations to be sin free?

[Terdarmo]

Sin is like the term evolution Ms T. Its difficult to corner anyone on a precise definition. Finally I come to the conclusion that sin is anything that harms man. That is a blanket statement but a true one. Example;

ahhhhh' I dont feel so fuckin' good .......

(oh shit some of the usual suspect duckie's here synner, love lost, V for vindesil, sage, cannot fathom what an example is),...

that (the above) made me want to vomit for sure....wait....Reeeehahhhhhh

Im not going to vomit Im not going to......UrrrrrrrPPPPP ......

I will save the example

You've got some serious issues with bodily functions, Reverend. :add09:

[RSade]

[terdamoto]What about homosexuality? How does that hurt my fellow man OR God?[/quote]

The good news is that Jesus said nothing bad against flaming queens or gays. I am hetro unless I am trying to piss someone off then I am whatever turns their crank. However sexual orientation and how you get your jollies should be fine as long as you aren't into NC shit (forced sex) then it becomes a sin.

The government as well as the church should stay out of the bedroom or dungeon...or whatever


You've got some serious issues with bodily functions, Reverend.

Yes, I become alarmed when bodily fluids are ejected from my body and at supersonic speeds. Maybe I shouldn't take a digital themonters word for a 103 temp...hell it started out at fuckin ZERO!!! (I looked at it down my nose you know cross-eyed and the goddammed thing was blipping numbers so fast that by the time I panicked and jerked it out it read 101.3!!!

Hell no why all the fuss? Its just a little virus.....nothhing that a dose of hard drugs cant cure.....mebbie synners avatar would scare the little virus shaped fuckers to death ! Hell I hafta' look at his posts in a mirror , or everything but my dick will turn to stone!

this is gonna be posted without edit ..uless I get outa the bathroom before that lame 20 min edit deadline

thanks for the concern Terdarmo...I know you care....

oh and the other body functions as per your post #56....I might be kinky but scat and watersports dont excite me.

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10 min!
hey that was a quickie

[fuzzi pariah]

"...for whatsoever is not of faith is sin." (Romans 14:23b)

I know, it kind of reduces the things we can do...

[KAOSKTRL]

Abu Hamza 'urged followers to bleed enemy'

· Jury sees video in which England is called a toilet
· Cleric claims every court and brothel is a target

Duncan Campbell
Friday January 13, 2006
The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/)

The Islamic cleric charged with soliciting murder and incitement to racial hatred told his followers that they had to train in order to "bleed the enemy", an Old Bailey jury heard yesterday. In videos shown to the court, he also described England as a "toilet" and suggested the Christian church was riddled with homosexuality, iniquity and black magic.Sheikh Abu Hamza, the former cleric at the Finsbury Park mosque in north London, is pleading not guilty to nine charges of soliciting murder, four charges of inciting racial hatred and one of of owning a document useful to a person committing or preparing acts of terrorism. He is pleading not guilty to all charges.
Yesterday the jury was shown two videos of Abu Hamza addressing an audience in the late 1990s. He spoke about a wide range of issues from the content of food to the political situation in Algeria and Saudia Arabia, taking questions from his audience. The tapes form part of the prosecution case outlined on Wednesday.
The first tape showed the cleric at a meeting in Whitechapel in late 1997 or early 1998. He explained how to establish a caliphate: "The first thing to do is be trained ... There's no real need to go and train for tanks and aeroplanes. Where you going to find those? You can't make them yourselves. To be trained of what is available for you ... Every court is a target, every brothel is a target and everybody who's endorsing that is a target ... You have to bleed the enemy whether you work alone or work with a group or you work with your family. Work has to be done. Then after you have done that, obviously you will be on the run."
On "bleeding the enemy," he told his audience: "Like you imagine you have only one small knife and you have a big animal in front of you, the size of the knife you can't slaughter him with this. You have to stab him here and there until he bleeds to death, until he dies ... This is the first needle, this is what the brothers in Algeria now are doing, they are bleeding them. This is the first stage of the jihad."
Abu Hamza made frequent references to struggles in Algeria, Bosnia, Palestine, Egypt and Kashmir. He spoke of seeing TV news reports of events in those areas. "We've seen the blood of our brothers, we've seen the humiliation of our brothers and sisters and yet only five minutes and then we will go to roast the chicken, forget everything." Of Saudi Arabia he said: "The whole country has been stolen by this evil family."
Referring to England as a "toilet," he said that "a person who comes to a toilet, he should be very keen to go out of it quickly because it smells and changes the human's nature and you can't really worship very good in a toilet."
Of the Muslim parliament, he said: "These are the pussycat Muslims who do not understand anything about Islam ... What can the Muslim parliament do? Just sit like monkeys among the real MPs."
Talking to his audience about commitment, he referred to football fans. "Don't you see the football supporters? They go, they kill for football. They stand in the road outside the stadium waiting in rain and snow, paying money, buying tickets on the black market."
The trial continues today.
Quotes
In a second tape shown to the court Abu Hamza said:
On British women converts "When they accept Islam, they think it's a fashion, they become covered, become veiled and next day they have the bikini again."
On the church in Britain "In the hearts and minds of people, preachers have become homosexual, they have become child hazard. Churches have become places of dancing, iniquity, business, black magic".
On British society "The main source of income in this country is actually what? ... Usury, prostitution, alcohol, taxation, plotting against Third World countries, booties."

[Sage]

So if I eat a gallon of Ice cream, it means that I don't love God?

do you think that if you eat a gallon ice cream that you dont love God?


James 4:17
"he that knows to do good, and does not do it to him it is sin."

i guess its up to you.

obesity shows a person does not love themselves let alone God. If you love God your going to want to take care of that body he gave you.

there are dietary laws as well..so there again, like Yehuah said..its all summed up with loving God and your neighbor.


What about homosexuality? How does that hurt my fellow man OR God?

out of the same law

Lev 20

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

and as Yeshuah said..the law is summed up in Loving God with all your heart mind and soul, and loving your neighbor as yourself.

so if your doing those two things the rest falls into place.



So if we are not able to privately interpret the scripture, which evangelist are we supposed to take as gospel interpretation?

Acts 17:11

11These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so


How do I know your interpretation isn't just another private one?

you will have to check it for yourself.


And thank you for that scripture regarding private interpretation; you just helped me understand that all the laws the Catholics made regarding the issuance of bibles was actually scripturally based. I'll have to remember that verse for Fuzzi. no prob


Do you think that killing a man who's pointing a gun at your friend is a sin?

do you see that as killing a man, or saving a mans life?

do i have to kill him in order to save my friend, or can i take him out without killing him?

the command You shall not "kill" is inaccurate.

its you shall not commit murder.


There's ALL kinds of room for twisting. So is that twisting okay as long as it's in public? Do I need to hold a sign in the middle of New York for my interpretations to be sin free?

yep, people twist all day long, all night long..to bad for them.

you cant have your own interpretation, nor can anyone else. And, if you study, the difference is usually very easy to spot .

exegesis vs eisegesis

[Terdarmo]

do you think that if you eat a gallon ice cream that you dont love God?


James 4:17
"he that knows to do good, and does not do it to him it is sin."

i guess its up to you.

obesity shows a person does not love themselves let alone God. If you love God your going to want to take care of that body he gave you.

there are dietary laws as well..so there again, like Yehuah said..its all summed up with loving God and your neighbor.



out of the same law

Lev 20

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

and as Yeshuah said..the law is summed up in Loving God with all your heart mind and soul, and loving your neighbor as yourself.

so if your doing those two things the rest falls into place.




Acts 17:11

11These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so



you will have to check it for yourself.

no prob



do you see that as killing a man, or saving a mans life?

do i have to kill him in order to save my friend, or can i take him out without killing him?

the command You shall not "kill" is inaccurate.

its you shall not commit murder.



yep, people twist all day long, all night long..to bad for them.

you cant have your own interpretation, nor can anyone else. And, if you study, the difference is usually very easy to spot .

exegesis vs eisegesis

Leviticus ALSO says that I can murder my children if they sass me.

Are you saying that if I murder my sassy children, and I have faith in God, then I've committed no sin?

Charles Manson, you have a call on line 3. Charles Manson, line 3.

[RSade]

Jesus changed everything guys. While the OT must be used to support the NT, it is somthing like federal law (NT) overruling state law in most cases (OT).

Yes many (all?) fundies disagree , while I respect thier veiws , I do not suscribe to them.

[Sage]

Leviticus ALSO says that I can murder my children if they sass me.

not "sass"

For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood [shall be] upon him


Are you saying that if I murder my sassy children, and I have faith in God, then I've committed no sin?

its not sass, its a much more vehmenent action, its not little bobby saying "no, i wont eat my turnips"

I didn't say it God said it.

For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood [shall be] upon him


Charles Manson, you have a call on line 3. Charles Manson, line 3.

i dont think Charles manson was concerned with honering his father and his mother, do you? he was the child of a drug addict prostitute, and im sure he did not honor his parent(s) any more than she loved him. He cetianly did not honer anyone elses parents, but destroyed just about everyone he came into contact with. no doubt if that same law was in place he would never have been able to leave his mark on society.


Children’s abusing their parents, by cursing them, v. 9. If children should speak ill of their parents, or wish ill to them, or carry it scornfully or spitefully towards them, it was an iniquity to be punished by the judges, who were employed as conservators both of God’s honour and of the public peace, which were both attacked by this unnatural insolence. See Prov. 30:17 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Pro/Pro030.html#17), The eye that mocks at his father the ravens of the valley shall pick out, which intimates that such wicked children were in a fair way to be not only hanged, but hanged in chains.

This law of Moses Christ quotes and confirms (Mt. 15:4 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mat/Mat015.html#4)), for it is as direct a breach of the fifth commandment as wilful murder is of the sixth. The same law which requires parents to be tender of their children requires children to be respectful to their parents. He that despitefully uses his parents, the instruments of his being, flies in the face of God himself, the author of his being, who will not see the paternal dignity and authority insulted and trampled upon.

again since we have come full circle. "love the lord thy God with all thy heart,mind and soul and thy neighbor as thyself"

this fulfills the law and the prophets.

[KAOSKTRL]

January 13, 2006

'Peaceful' PA official praises suicide bombers

Yet more evidence of the fact that it is virtually impossible to distinguish moderate Muslims from those more inclined to, or at least approving of, violence. From WND (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48301), with thanks to all who sent this in:

JERUSALEM – A Palestinian official who publicly claims to support Israeli-Palestinian peace initiatives this week gave a speech in Arabic in which he praised suicide bombers, blasted "filthy [Israeli] occupation," and declared Jerusalem is Palestinian land. Qadura Faras, a Palestinian Legislative Council member and lawmaker from the ruling Fatah party, has been a vocal proponent of the Geneva Initiative, a private peace proposal drafted in 2003 by a group of extreme leftist Israelis, Palestinians and Europeans calling for an immediate Palestinian state in Gaza, Judea, Samaria and Jerusalem.
Faras appears on a video featured on the official Geneva Initiative website with a message of peace toward Israelis:
"It is always asked, do you [Israelis] have a partner on the other side. I am telling you with full sincerity, we are ready to reach an inclusive agreement with you, which will promise us freedom and liberty and statehood, and will promise you the thing we know you are sensitive to, which is your full right to live in peace and security."
But Israel-based Palestinian Media Watch reports Faras this week conveyed a different kind of message in a speech to a group of Palestinians.
According to the Al-Hayat Al-Jadida Palestinian newspaper, which covered Faras' Arabic-language address, the Fatah official "emphasized the continuation of the struggle until the freeing of all of the Palestinian territories from the filth of the occupation, and establishing the independent Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its capital. Fares blessed the prisoners behind bars, and in particular mentioned the imprisoned fighter, "The Sniper" Tha'ir Hamed, who carried out the ... operation that led to the killing and injuring of several of the occupation soldiers."
Hamed was involved in terror attacks that killed 10 Israelis.
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[Sage]

JERUSALEM – A Palestinian official who publicly claims to support Israeli-Palestinian peace initiatives this week gave a speech in Arabic in which he praised suicide bombers, blasted "filthy [Israeli] occupation," and declared Jerusalem is Palestinian land.

we sure that wasnt abood in drag?

[KAOSKTRL]

January 20, 2006

Hamza trial: It ain't hate, it's the Qur'an

With the unstated premise here being that there cannot possibly be any hate in the Qur'an. Now I wonder if Ibrahim Hooper or Stephen Schwartz or maybe John Walker Lindh would be so kind as to explain to me how exactly we can be certain of that. "'Offensive' remarks taken straight from Koran, defence says," from the TimesOnline (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,174-2001006,00.html), with thanks to the Constantinopolitan Irredentist:

COPIES of the Koran were handed to the jurors in the Abu Hamza trial yesterday as his defence argued that some of the cleric’s “offensive” statements were drawn directly from Islam’s holy book. Edward Fitzgerald, QC, for the defence, said that Abu Hamza’s interpretation of the Koran was that it imposed an obligation on Muslims to do jihad and fight in the defence of their religion. He said that the Crown case against the former imam of Finsbury Park Mosque was “simplistic in the extreme”.
He added: “It is said he was preaching murder, but he was actually preaching from the Koran itself.”
Why then, if he was preaching from the Qur'an, it just only seemed as if he was preaching murder. He was actually preaching that everyone should enjoy ice cream. Oh, how could I have been so ignorant? So Islamophobic?

Mr Fitzgerald [no relation whatsoever to Jihad Watch's Hugh Fitzgerald] cited two verses of the book that Abu Hamza would rely on, among many others, as theological justification for the words that had led to him being charged. They were Chapter 2, verse 216 and Chapter 9, verse 111. He said that all the great monotheistic religions had scriptures that contained “the language of blood and retribution”. No, Fitz. I challenge you, and I challenge the world, to produce any verse of the Bible that remotely corresponds to either one of these.
2:216 says: "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Where in the Bible does it tell the aggregate of believers that fighting is "prescribed" for them? There are verses in the Old Testament telling the Israelites to fight against specific people, but they are not commands to open-ended warfare against unbelievers, and Jews and Christians have never understood them as such.
9:111 is even worse: "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain..."
This verse is used as a rationale for suicide bombing. Now find me one verse of the Bible that promises Heaven to anyone who kills and is killed. Go ahead. I'll be right here: director@jihadwatch.org.



Abu Hamza’s remarks, which the prosecution alleges amount to an attempt to stir up racial hatred against the Jewish people, were, Mr Fitzgerald said, a reference to the Hadith — sayings of the Prophet Muhammad — in which fighting between Jews and Muslims is predicted. The Hadith says that the trees will call out to the Muslims “there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him”.
In a sane world, this would not be seen as a valid defense at all. Instead, it would raise questions about the Qur'an and Hadith themselves. But that is so far off the radar screen in Britain, Eddie Fitz has nothing to worry about

[KAOSKTRL]

http://www.compassdirect.org/en/news...idelement=4175 (http://www.compassdirect.org/en/newslongen.php?idelement=4175)

Just an ordinary day in the terrorist belt known as southwest asia and north africa. move along :

Turkey - Friday January 20, 2006
MUSLIMS BEAT PASTOR AFTER ATTENDING CHURCH
Knife-wielding attacker: ‘Deny Jesus or I will kill you now.’


January 20 (Compass) – Five young men attacked and threatened to kill a Protestant church leader in Turkey’s fourth largest city after Sunday worship services January 8.


Kamil Kiroglu, 29, was beaten unconscious twice along the street after leaving his church premises in Adana at about 5 p.m. Wielding a long butcher knife, one of the unidentified attackers threatened to kill him if he refused to deny his Christian faith and return to Islam.


The four Turks involved in the attack appeared to be in their late teens but were led by a foreigner probably 10 years older who claimed to be from Turkmenistan. At one point, the group’s leader said he was acting on behalf of the Al-Qaeda terrorist network.


The five strangers showed up at the Adana Protestant Church’s rented facility near the city center 45 minutes before the Sunday service began at 2 p.m. About 40 people, the usual number, were attending the service.


Introducing himself to church members as a Christian from Turkmenistan, the group’s leader made a show of speaking Russian. He said that he had “converted” the four Turks with him to Christianity, but that he did not know how to teach them.


The others chimed in, saying, “We want to know more. Please teach us about Jesus.” They claimed to have come from Mersin and Gaziantep, cities 35 and 120 miles, respectively, from Adana.


Following the service, Kiroglu suggested the visitors ask him their questions as church members lingered at the facility drinking tea. But they said it was too crowded to talk freely, insisting they would wait to talk with him after everyone else had left.


Some minutes later, Kiroglu began to become suspicious, realizing that he was now alone with them in the building. All five stood whispering together near the door, blocking him from leaving.


Surprise Package

Explaining that he and the other church leaders all had previous appointments, Kiroglu glanced out the door and called to an expatriate friend waiting for him outside. When his friend appeared, the group reluctantly started to leave, talking among themselves about a “package” they had left inside.


“If you have left any package inside, go and get it,” Kiroglu told them, “because I am going to lock the door.”


Surprised, the leader tried to deny saying anything about a package. But then he said abruptly, “There is a package for you from Al-Qaeda. It is a surprise. You will soon know what it is.” Then the men quickly strode away.


“When I heard this, I shut the door,” Kiroglu said, “and I was really frightened.”


Shouting to his expatriate friend, who did not understand Turkish, to run, he took out his cell phone to call the police.


But when the men looked back and saw what Kiroglu was doing, they whirled and rushed back toward him. He said one of them shouted, “We don’t want Christians in this country!”


Ignoring the church leader’s confused foreign friend, the men chased and caught Kiroglu and began to strike him severely with their fists and feet. “I was trying to protect my face,” Kiroglu said, “but soon I was lying on the ground, covered in blood, and they were still kicking and beating me.”


After briefly losing consciousness, he managed to get to his feet and start running again, but again the attackers caught up with him.


“They were trying to force me to deny Jesus,” Kiroglu said. “But each time they asked me to deny Jesus and become a Muslim, I was saying, ‘Jesus is Lord.’ The more I said ‘Jesus is Lord,’ the more they beat me.”


Kiroglu saw in one man’s hands a long butcher knife, which he later learned had been grabbed from a nearby kebap restaurant. Shoving the knife against Kiroglu’s stomach, the attacker said, “I’m asking you again, deny Jesus, or I will kill you now.”


“Then I realized there was no way of saving myself,” Kiroglu said. “He was going to kill me.”


Suddenly, the Christian said, he felt two heavy blows, one on his head and the other on his spine, and everything went dark. When he regained consciousness, his attackers were gone and his friend was trying to wake him up.


Kiroglu then went directly to a nearby police station, where officers took him to the hospital for treatment. Although his assailants never stabbed him, doctors put six stitches into his bleeding mouth, and his head and other parts of his body remained swollen and painful for nearly a week after the beatings. His glasses were also shattered during the attack.


Anti-Terrorist Squad

A squad of anti-terrorist police immediately searched the church building after Kiroglu told them about the “package” threat. But instead of a feared bomb, the package turned out to be a huge knife almost three feet long, wrapped up and hidden under a bench.


Pastor Umberto Coello said Turkish security police took the attack very seriously, sending many officers to patrol the area of the church the following Sunday.


Kiroglu told Compass that the attack had put him into “a different dimension” in his life.

“I am praising God not because he saved me from death,” Kiroglu said, “but because he helped me not to deny him in the shadow of death.”


Kiroglu, who supports himself as a translator and interpreter, became a Christian four and one-half years ago. The Adana Protestant Church, begun in 2001, is one of three Protestant congregations in the city, two of them worshipping in Turkish.


A similar attack 14 months ago targeted a U.S. Christian in Gaziantep’s Protestant congregation. Three teenage assailants tied and gagged their victim in his office, threatening him with a pistol and claiming they had orders from Al-Qaeda to “put him away.”


Turkish security police investigating both incidents suggested that local extremist youths could be claiming the Al-Qaeda label in order to intimidate Turks from converting to Christianity.


“Definitely, Al-Qaeda never behaves like this,” Adana police investigators told Kiroglu. “If they had come to your church, they would bomb it and kill people. But maybe some people are giving these unruly youths money to do this.”


The tiny Protestant community of overwhelmingly Muslim (but officially secular) Turkey consists of an estimated 3,500 Turkish Christians who worship in some 95 churches, many of them house fellowships.

[Terdarmo]

not "sass"

For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood [shall be] upon him



its not sass, its a much more vehmenent action, its not little bobby saying "no, i wont eat my turnips"

I didn't say it God said it.

For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood [shall be] upon him



Tha Charles MAnson thing was a joke.

The killing my kids thing wasn't. So your God of love says that if my child says "fuck you I hope you die you're a filthy rotten whore of a mother and I hope you go to hell!!!"

It's okay to kill her for that?

Fabulous. I just want to make sure I'll be going to heaven after murdering my children. Does God guaruntee that, or it just another one of his sick jokes?

For all listening, I'm not going to kill my children. I'd rather tell God to piss up a rope than harm them in "his name."

[KAOSKTRL]

EGYPT: Coptic Orthodox leader killed as Muslim set fire to Christian church

Sunday, 22 January 2006, 3 hours, 2 minutes and 0 seconds ago.

By ANDnetwork Journalist

One Christian has died and at least 11 Egyptians were reportedly injured yesterday morning when Muslims clashed with security police and set fire to a Christian community center in Upper Egypt.



Coptic Christian Kamaal Shaker died of injuries he received when a group of Muslims set fire to an Orthodox-owned building in the town of el-Udaysaat, near the city of Luxor, said Youssef Sidhom, editor of the Egyptian weekly Watani.

Muslims who heard prayers from the all-night service in the community center threw torches into the building at 4 a.m. Thursday, Egyptian daily Al-Akhbar reported today. According to the newspaper, all those injured, including security guards Ahmad Hosni and Yasser Mahmood, were taken to Luxor International Hospital for treatment. Hosni was admitted to the intensive care unit for suffocation-related injuries.

Local sources told Compass that the center had been banned from holding religious services in 1971, when authorities told the congregation to apply for registration. Recently the community began to remodel the building and had planned to inaugurate it for use conducting prayer services.

The all-night prayer service was being conducted on the eve of Epiphany, celebrated 12 days after the Eastern Orthodox January 7 Christmas.

Police arrested 10 men involved in the attack and the owner of the building, an Egyptian security sources said.

Funeral Signal

Coptic Orthodox Pope Shenouda III plans to send seven bishops to el-Udaysaat tomorrow for Shaker’s funeral service, said Watani’s Sidhom. “They say that the funeral service will be held in the same site which was under attack,” Sidhom told Compass.

Holding the funeral at a venue unlicensed as a church appears to be a sign of protest against Egypt’s 150-year-old Hamayouni law that governs the building and basic upkeep of non-Muslim places of worship. The legislation creates unequal treatment of mosque and church construction, and Copts complain that it has been abused to stifle Christian activity.

The problem of unregistered worship in el-Udaysaat is not isolated. “Most of the churches in Upper Egypt are unlicensed,” Sidhom commented to Compass.

Many churches, such as St. George’s in the Sohag province, have had their applications for official registration stalled for years by government officials. The Coptic congregation in the village of Bani Khalid has been unsuccessfully applying for church registration since authorities closed down the church building in 1990.

Last month Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak eased church construction regulations, no longer requiring government approval for basic repairs and holding authorities to a 30-day deadline in responding to applications for reconstruction. But presidential approval is still needed to build a new church, and many Copts are skeptical that the new time frame for processing applications will be enforced.

Christian Homes Attacked

Also last month, Muslims in a village north of Cairo vandalized Christian homes after a Muslim man died of heart failure upon witnessing a fight between his son and a Christian. Though the initial dispute was reportedly nonreligious in nature, a group of Muslims in the village of Kafr Salama carried out retaliatory attacks on December 10 against seven Christian homes, including those of Soliman Bakheet, George Naguib and Kadri Damien.

According to village priest Father Domadios of the Abi Seifeim Coptic Church, the situation was “resolved” at an informal village meeting, attended by the deputy governor of Sharkeya governorate and the head of police.

Two Christian families involved in the initial fight are expected to leave the village and pay a fine of 500,000 Egyptian pounds (U.S.$87,070).

Source: Christian Monitor

[Terdarmo]

EGYPT: Coptic Orthodox leader killed as Muslim set fire to Christian church


Source: Christian Monitor

Who cares about a bunch of toilet trout fighting with each other?

[KAOSKTRL]

Islam means peace man , Islam means peace.

[KAOSKTRL]

http://www.radioislam.com/_asx/PublicAffairs/whynewmleave.asx

[Camp]

EGYPT: Coptic Orthodox leader killed as Muslim set fire to Christian church

Sunday, 22 January 2006, 3 hours, 2 minutes and 0 seconds ago.

By ANDnetwork Journalist

One Christian has died and at least 11 Egyptians were reportedly injured yesterday morning when Muslims clashed with security police and set fire to a Christian community center in Upper Egypt.



Coptic Christian Kamaal Shaker died of injuries he received when a group of Muslims set fire to an Orthodox-owned building in the town of el-Udaysaat, near the city of Luxor, said Youssef Sidhom, editor of the Egyptian weekly Watani.

Muslims who heard prayers from the all-night service in the community center threw torches into the building at 4 a.m. Thursday, Egyptian daily Al-Akhbar reported today. According to the newspaper, all those injured, including security guards Ahmad Hosni and Yasser Mahmood, were taken to Luxor International Hospital for treatment. Hosni was admitted to the intensive care unit for suffocation-related injuries.

Local sources told Compass that the center had been banned from holding religious services in 1971, when authorities told the congregation to apply for registration. Recently the community began to remodel the building and had planned to inaugurate it for use conducting prayer services.

The all-night prayer service was being conducted on the eve of Epiphany, celebrated 12 days after the Eastern Orthodox January 7 Christmas.

Police arrested 10 men involved in the attack and the owner of the building, an Egyptian security sources said.

Funeral Signal

Coptic Orthodox Pope Shenouda III plans to send seven bishops to el-Udaysaat tomorrow for Shaker’s funeral service, said Watani’s Sidhom. “They say that the funeral service will be held in the same site which was under attack,” Sidhom told Compass.

Holding the funeral at a venue unlicensed as a church appears to be a sign of protest against Egypt’s 150-year-old Hamayouni law that governs the building and basic upkeep of non-Muslim places of worship. The legislation creates unequal treatment of mosque and church construction, and Copts complain that it has been abused to stifle Christian activity.

The problem of unregistered worship in el-Udaysaat is not isolated. “Most of the churches in Upper Egypt are unlicensed,” Sidhom commented to Compass.

Many churches, such as St. George’s in the Sohag province, have had their applications for official registration stalled for years by government officials. The Coptic congregation in the village of Bani Khalid has been unsuccessfully applying for church registration since authorities closed down the church building in 1990.

Last month Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak eased church construction regulations, no longer requiring government approval for basic repairs and holding authorities to a 30-day deadline in responding to applications for reconstruction. But presidential approval is still needed to build a new church, and many Copts are skeptical that the new time frame for processing applications will be enforced.

Christian Homes Attacked

Also last month, Muslims in a village north of Cairo vandalized Christian homes after a Muslim man died of heart failure upon witnessing a fight between his son and a Christian. Though the initial dispute was reportedly nonreligious in nature, a group of Muslims in the village of Kafr Salama carried out retaliatory attacks on December 10 against seven Christian homes, including those of Soliman Bakheet, George Naguib and Kadri Damien.

According to village priest Father Domadios of the Abi Seifeim Coptic Church, the situation was “resolved” at an informal village meeting, attended by the deputy governor of Sharkeya governorate and the head of police.

Two Christian families involved in the initial fight are expected to leave the village and pay a fine of 500,000 Egyptian pounds (U.S.$87,070).

Source: Christian Monitor

The islamic front is slowly, surely, and methodically working its way up the Nile valley to eliminate ANY pockets of dissent.

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The pope's unexploded bombshell

Jan 23, 2006
by Diana West (http://www.townhall.com/opinion/contributors/dianawest.html) ( bio (http://www.townhall.com/opinion/contributors/dianawest.html) | archive (http://www.townhall.com/opinion/contributors/dianawest/archive/2006/) | contact (http://www.townhall.com/opinion/contact/dianawest/183354.html) )
Remember when word came down from the Vatican that Pope John Paul II had watched Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ" and liked it? The anonymously sourced story sparked a media firestorm around the globe as reporters sought confirmation of the papal equivalent of two thumbs up. "It is as it was," we later learned the pope supposedly said. Which sounded like the perfect biblical movie blurb; but did the pontiff actually utter the words?
After some non-clarifying retractions from the Vatican, it was ultimately hard to say for sure -- although not for journalistic want of trying. This natural curiosity stands in striking contrast to the media silence that has met a far more sensational, far more significant report of papal opinion: namely, that Pope Benedict XVI is said to believe that Islam is incapable of reform.
This bombshell dropped out of an early January interview conducted by radio host Hugh Hewitt with the Rev. Joseph D. Fessio, SJ, a friend and former student of the pope. The Rev. Fessio recounted the pope's words on the key problem facing Islamic reform this way: "In the Islamic tradition, God has given His word to Muhammad, but it's an eternal word. It's not Muhammad's word. It's there for eternity the way it is. There's no possibility of adapting it or interpreting it." Fessio continued, elaborating not on how many ratings stars the pope thinks some biopic should get, but rather on the pope's theological assessment of a historically warring religion with a billion-plus followers, some notorious number of whom are now at war with the West. According to his friend, the pope believes there's no way to change Islam because there's no way to reinterpret the Koran -- i.e., change Koranic teachings on infidels, women, polygamy, penal codes and other markers of Islamic law -- in such a way as to propel Islam into happy coexistence with modernity.

As I said, a bombshell. But this is one bombshell that has yet to explode because no one wants to touch it. Hugh Hewitt posted the extraordinary interview online, a couple of blogs picked it up, and Middle East expert Daniel Pipes wrote a short piece taking exception to it, but, as the Asia Times Online columnist Spengler noted (in a column called "When even the pope has to whisper"), "not a single media outlet has taken notice." Posting the Spengler column at The Corner at National Review Online, Rod Dreher wrote: "Spengler is amazed by the silence from the Western media over this remarkable statement attributed to the current pope ... and he suggests that we shrink from acknowledging it because the consequences of the pope being right about this are too horrible to contemplate." Indeed, with one exception, NRO Corner regulars failed to comment on the pope's putative words -- noteworthy, given the magazine's tradition of a Catholic identity.
Is facing up to the pope's notion of unreformable Islam really too horrible to contemplate? Sounds to me like the fabled abyss. By coincidence, a senior officer in Iraq with whom I've been corresponding made a similar point in explaining why he hoped for Islamic reform: basically, because without the hope of such reform, there is no hope of such reform -- which, I assume, leads to those horrible consequences mentioned above, beginning, well, with hopelessness.
But despair masked in the wishful silence of studied neglect is the wrong response. That is, if the pope is right and Islam is not reformable along the lines of a Western model, it's not a Western problem -- meaning a problem the West is responsible for fixing. It is perhaps the ultimate Western chauvinism that even considering the failed overhaul of Islam, being beyond Muslim doctrine and beyond our own capabilities, should plunge us -- infidels, non-Muslims, Jeffersonian deists, whatever -- into the abyss. With apologies to Pygmalion via Lerner and Lowe, the question shouldn't be: "Why Can't Islam Be More Like the West?" It should be: "How can the West prevent itself from becoming more like Islam?"
One obvious answer is an immigration policy aimed at preventing the kind of Islamic demographic shifts we already see transforming Europe -- although our policy makers, Republican and Democrat alike, aren't even asking the question. Maybe they, like my military pen pal, prefer to hope for the Islamic reform the pope is said to have ruled out. Hope may well spring eternal and all that, but it's not the stuff on which military strategy or national destiny should hang.
Diana West is a contributing columnist for Townhall.com.

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January 26, 2006

Hamas wins, Palestinian premier resigns

The Tiny Minority of Extremists has won the Palestinian elections, which in itself is not actually a demonstration that the jihad ideology enjoys broader support among Muslims than most analysts would like to admit, since Fatah itself was not exactly an epitome of opposition to that ideology. As Hugh Fitzgerald pointed out yesterday (http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/009903.php), this was a choice between the slow jihad against Israel and the faster variety. "Palestinian Premier, Cabinet Resigns," from AP (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060126/ap_on_re_mi_ea/palestinians_election):

RAMALLAH, West Bank - Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qureia and his Cabinet ministers submitted their resignations Thursday as the Islamic militant group Hamas appeared to have captured a large majority of seats in the Palestinian elections — a shocking upset sure to throw Mideast peacemaking into turmoil. "This is the choice of the people. It should be respected," Qureia said. "If it's true (the results), then the president should ask Hamas to form a new government. For me, personally, I sent my resignation."
Under the law, Abbas must ask the largest party in the new parliament — presumably Hamas — to form the next government. Abbas was elected separately a year ago and remains president.
Hamas said before the election it does not want to govern alone, and would prefer to bring Fatah into a coalition. Hamas leader Mahmoud Zahar said Thursday that the group will declare its intentions after official results are announced later in the day.
The result could have a devastating effect on the peace process with Israel. Mushir al-Masri, a senior Hamas official, said Thursday that recognizing Israel and negotiations with the Jewish state are "not on our agenda."
Israel and the United States have said they would not deal with a Hamas-led Palestinian government. Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas has said he would step down if he could no longer pursue his peace agenda with Israel.
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January 26, 2006

Hamas 76 seats, Fatah 43

It looks as if it was a landslide for the Tiny Minority of Extremists: "Hamas Wins Landslide 76 Seats," from AP (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060126/ap_on_re_mi_ea/palestinian_election_8;_ylt=AgkxT55EvTWum_ByBpsOYx kUvioA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl). Note something that Ashrawi says: "The Americans insisted on having the election now." Indeed, the Americans did, operating out of the widely held fantasy that free elections are a good thing in themselves, and that voters, out of the natural longing for freedom in every human heart, will always reject tyranny and hatred and fanaticism at the ballot box.
Unfortunately, reality is neither that simple nor that comforting. As I argued here (http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1571/is_8_19/ai_100111653) several years ago (my section is "No," starting on page two), as long as the idea that Islamic Sharia is the law of God remains strong in Islamic countries, they will not be interested in exchanging it for laws based on human consensus. And, I might add -- and as today's news shows us -- Muslims who believe this will use their vote to choose Sharia when they have the chance. The fact that this is their democratic choice should not be comforting, for it is a choice for the institutionalized oppression of women and religious minorities.

RAMALLAH, West Bank - The Islamic militant Hamas won a landslide victory in Palestinian parliamentary elections, winning 76 seats in the 132-member legislature, election officials said Thursday. The rival Fatah Party, which controlled Palestinian politics for four decades, won 43 seats. Hamas supporters raised their flag over the Palestinian parliament and rushed into the building amid clashes with Fatah loyalists a day after winning parliamentary elections.
The two camps threw stones at each other, breaking windows in the building, as Fatah supporters briefly tried to lower the green Hamas banners. The crowd of about 3,000 Hamas backers cheered and whistled as activists on the roof of the parliament raised the Hamas banner again....
Palestinian legislator Hanan Ashrawi, who apparently was re-elected on a moderate platform, said the Hamas victory was a dramatic turning point. She said she is concerned the militants will impose their fundamentalist social agenda and lead the Palestinians into international isolation.
She said Fatah's corruption, Israel's tough measures and international indifference to the plight of the Palestinians were to blame for Hamas' strong showing.
Washington miscalculated in pushing for the vote, as part of its pro-democracy campaign in the Arab world, she said. "The Americans insisted on having the election now, so they have to respect the results of the election, as we all do," she said.
Israel has repeatedly asked Abbas to force Hamas and other militant groups to disarm but Abbas has refused, warning such an act could cause civil war.
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Preaching hatred

By Diana West
January 27, 2006

Abu Hamza al-Masri, the hook-handed former imam of the notorious Finsbury Park mosque -- spiritual home to "shoe bomber" Richard Reid and "20th hijacker" Zacarias Moussaoui -- is on trial this month at the Old Bailey. Charges include nine counts of soliciting to murder, four counts of stirring up racial hatred, and two counts of possession of material related to the other charges, including the 10-volume Encyclopedia of the Afghani Jihad -- a terrorism how-to guide now immortalized in London tabloidese as "Hook's 'Bomb Big Ben' Book."
Jurors in the London case will be listening very carefully to nine audio and video recordings of sermons by Abu Hamza seized by police from the mosque, which, not at all incidentally, has also yielded a trove of weapons, hundreds of suspected forged or stolen passports, even a few hazmat suits. Also seized was a box rather helpfully labeled "jihad."
On the one hand, these jurors got off easy. Police hauled away nearly 3,000 taped sermons by Abu Hamza, so boning up on only nine of them isn't too bad. On the other hand, these sermons aren't exactly uplifting -- unless, that is, "uplifting" means skin-crawling exhortations to murder Jews and Christians and "apostate" Muslims, and maniacal calls for a world caliphate based on Sharia law.
But even after mastering the heinous evidence, the jurors' task will be harder still. They will then have to make sense of the illogically contorted, politically correct legal arguments being mounted both for and against the defendant in order to exempt the role of Islam in modern-day jihad, or holy war.
For the prosecution, David Perry says: "This is nothing more or less than preaching hatred and murder," which, he makes clear, has nothing to do with Islam.
For the defense, Edward Fitzgerald says: "It is said he was preaching murder. But he was actually preaching from the Koran itself."
Well, which is it, gentlemen? He's preaching murder that has nothing to do with Islam; or he's preaching the Koran that has nothing to do with murder. For people trying to fend off jihad in their midst, the question becomes a distracting conundrum.
At the onset of the trial, Mr. Perry predicted the defense would likely argue that Abu Hamza "was speaking as a follower of Islam and he was speaking the words of the holy Koran." This, Mr. Perry explained, was not the prosecution's contention. "This prosecution is not brought to criticize Islam or criticize the teachings of the Koran. It is brought because of what the defendant says."
There's no way to untwist this pretzel, but let's try. (A) The prosecutor rightly suspected Abu Hamza would defend himself against charges of incitement and hatred by claiming he was preaching from the Koran. (B) The prosecutor isn't criticizing the Koran, which Abu Hamza was preaching from. (C) He's just criticizing what Abu Hamza was saying.
If a circular argument is one that doesn't get anywhere, this prosecutor is chasing his tail. But he still can't get away from the Koran, not when the defense counsel is actually passing out copies to jurors. Mr. Fitzgerald's idea is, with their own Korans, jurors will be better able to follow the Koranic justifications for, as the London Times Online put it, "the words that had led to [Abu Hamza] being charged."
If these machinations -- now you see the Koran, now you don't -- make your head hurt, that's a good thing, evidence that key mental functions still function independently of PC. This doesn't, however, make the tortuous thinking of the British barristers easier to follow. In essence, the prosecution is saying: It's preaching murder, so it's not the Koran. In sum, the defense is saying: It's the Koran, so it's not preaching murder. What are they talking about?
In a sense, nothing. And that's the way they like it. Both the prosecution and the defense have decided that Islam plays no animating role in the modern jihadist movement of which Abu Hamza is a part. When the prosecutor describes Abu Hamza's preaching -- "holy war in the cause of Allah" as a "religious obligation" that includes the killing of non-believers -- he is describing the classic jihad ideology that has driven Islamic history; but he attributes it to Abu Hamza's idiosyncratic version of Islam. The defense, meanwhile, takes the same preaching -- "the language of blood and retribution," Mr. Fitzgerald says -- and declares it no different from any other religion's language.
In other words, whether or not Abu Hamza does hard time, jihad gets a pass.

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February 03, 2006

"Since they can't stop a man thinking, they take it out on his hide instead"

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Jihad Watch Board member Ibn Warraq, editor of the superb Leaving Islam (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1591020689/ref=ase_robertspencer-20/104-8430237-6691164?s=books&v=glance&n=283155&tagActionCode=robertspencer-20), has alerted me to a passage from Pierre-Augustin Caron de Beaumarchais' 1784 stage comedy Marriage of Figaro (adapted by Mozart for the great opera), from the famous Freedom of Speech monologue in Act V, Scene 3:

"I cobble together a verse comedy about the customs of the harem, assuming that, as a Spanish writer, I can say what I like about Mohammed without drawing hostile fire. Next thing, some envoy from God knows where turns up and complains that in my play I have offended the Ottoman empire, Persia, a large slice of the Indian peninsula, the whole of Egypt, and the kingdoms of Barca {Ethiopia}, Tripoli, Tunisi, Algeria, and Morocco. And so my play sinks without trace, all to placate a bunch of Muslim princes, not one of whom, as far as I know, can read but who beat the living daylights out of us and say we are 'Christian dogs.' Since they can't stop a man thinking, they take it out on his hide instead..." Plus ca change, plus c’est la meme chose.
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February 16, 2006

McCarthy: Your Honey Or Your Lyin’ Eyes?

Who you gonna believe? Andrew McCarthy has some clear-eyed analysis over at National Review Online (http://www.nationalreview.com/mccarthy/mccarthy200602150837.asp):

So here we are again, a dazed planet brushing ourselves off and surveying the wreckage from the worst spree of Islam-inspired rioting, bombing, murder, and mayhem since ... well, since the last one. And the one before that. The ongoing one is over offensive cartoons published by an obscure Danish newspaper. That's a step down from the one over a tall tale about Koran-flushing in a Guantanamo Bay toilet. Not to mention the one over infidel troops stationed (to protect Muslims) in the Land of the Two Holy Mosques, the one over the Occupation, the one over the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, the one over the Crusades, and the one over that time in 680 A.D. when some scion of monkeys and pigs allegedly spied a bare ankle under someone's sister's wind-swept chador.
You get the idea. The cartoon caper, though, has been singular — there hasn't been such an outpouring on the "Arab Street" since that heroic martyrdom operation against the Great Satan a little over four years ago...
Nonetheless, the contemporary vision of "moderate Islam" as a meaningful force for good is a mirage. Certainly there are moderate Muslim individuals. Large pockets of them, there and there, who have assimilated to the modern world and want only to live in ecumenical peace. But many of the people we call "moderates" are flat-out phonies, the bag-men who rise on the shoulders of the leg-breakers.
The authentic moderates, meanwhile, tarry in muted resistance to the domineering strain of their faith. The strain we like to tell ourselves is a mere fringe. The strain that has just managed, yet again, to unleash untold thousands (not handfuls of militants, but transcontinental thousands) to maraud over a trifling affront. The moderates must carry on by pretending, much like the State Department pretends, that the commands of their scriptures — toward brutality, beheading, conquest, death to unbelievers, eternal damnation to apostates, the subjugation of women, the dehumanizing of non-Muslims, and so on — either do not exist or have somehow been superseded (even though the Koran is said to reflect the words of Allah Himself, and even though much in it of a threatening nature actually comes later in time than the passages bespeaking moderation and tolerance).
Meanwhile, as we prepare to spend yet another $120 billion on a novel brand of democracy building — one which establishes Islam as Iraq's state religion and enshrines the inequities of sharia as a source and measure of its fundamental law — our wildly premature birthing of the nascent Palestinian "democracy" has just resulted in the rise to power of Hamas, an entity the U.S. officially designates as a terrorist organization. (To be fair, its competition was Fatah, an entity successive U.S. administrations spent the last dozen or so years deluding themselves was not a terrorist organization. In the event, these legatees of Yasser Arafat were, of course, the "moderates.") This result means that if American citizens did what our government is right now continuing to do — namely, contributing funds we well know Hamas will soon be controlling — they could be indicted under our antiterrorism laws. There are, as we speak, several defendants under such indictments in this country.
All of this intellectual and moral confusion — the disintegration of the Bush Doctrine, the compromising of our conception of democracy, the strange deference to charlatans spewing seventh-century venom, the pressure on our government to violate the very laws it enacted to choke off the funding that underwrites our enemies' butchery — all of it is based on a single conceit: That there is a flourishing moderate Islam. One worth looking beyond all the menacing verses and countless atrocities to find.
Okay, where is it?
Please read it all. This is an excellent piece.

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The Sexual Rage Behind Islamic Terror
By Jamie Glazov (http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/authors.asp?ID=3)
FrontPageMagazine.com (http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=246) | October 4, 2001


ALL SERIAL KILLERS, almost without exception, are severely sexually abused as children. The kind of people who hijack a plane with innocent people and drive it into a building with thousands of other innocent people are related to this phenomenon.
When sociopaths rape and kill, they do not see their victims as human beings, but only as objects. This is because the sociopaths were themselves, at one time, used as objects – as their bodily integrity was repeatedly violated. The rage that results from sexual abuse is one thing, but when combined with living in a dysfunctional culture of sexual repression and misogyny, where love is reduced to violent domination, it is quite another.
Throughout the Islamic Middle East, men and women are taught to be vehemently opposed to pleasure, especially of the sexual variety. Men are raised not only forbidden to touch women, but to even look at them. Sex before marriage is not just a sin -- but a criminal offence. It is punishable by a severe beating at best, and an execution at worst.
The sexual privileges that are allowed in Islamic cultures are permitted to men. Women’s sexuality and social independence represent major threats to male supremacy and are tightly controlled. Thus, as the Moroccan feminist Fitna Sabbah reveals in her book Woman in the Muslim Unconscious, there is a disturbing conflict in the Middle East between sexual libido and repression. A deep-seated fear of, and hostility to, individuality prevails, and its main expression exists in misogyny.
Socially segregated from women, Arab men succumb to homosexual behavior. But, interestingly enough, there is no word for "homosexual" in their culture in the modern Western sense. That is because having sex with boys, or with effeminate men, is seen as a social norm. Males serve as available substitutes for unavailable women. The male who does the penetrating, meanwhile, is not emasculated any more than if he had sex with a wife. The male who is penetrated is emasculated. The boy, however, is not, since it is rationalized that he is not yet a man.
In this culture, males sexually penetrating males becomes a manifestation of male power, conferring a status of hyper-masculinity. It is considered to have nothing to do with homosexuality. An unmarried man who has sex with boys is simply doing what men do. As the scholar Bruce Dunne has demonstrated, sex in Islamic societies is not about mutuality between partners, but about the adult male's achievement of pleasure through violent domination.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=246

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The Sexual Rage Behind Islamic Terror
By Jamie Glazov (http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/authors.asp?ID=3)
FrontPageMagazine.com (http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=246) | October 4, 2001




ALL SERIAL KILLERS, almost without exception, are severely sexually abused as children. The kind of people who hijack a plane with innocent people and drive it into a building with thousands of other innocent people are related to this phenomenon.
When sociopaths rape and kill, they do not see their victims as human beings, but only as objects. This is because the sociopaths were themselves, at one time, used as objects – as their bodily integrity was repeatedly violated. The rage that results from sexual abuse is one thing, but when combined with living in a dysfunctional culture of sexual repression and misogyny, where love is reduced to violent domination, it is quite another.
Throughout the Islamic Middle East, men and women are taught to be vehemently opposed to pleasure, especially of the sexual variety. Men are raised not only forbidden to touch women, but to even look at them. Sex before marriage is not just a sin -- but a criminal offence. It is punishable by a severe beating at best, and an execution at worst.
The sexual privileges that are allowed in Islamic cultures are permitted to men. Women’s sexuality and social independence represent major threats to male supremacy and are tightly controlled. Thus, as the Moroccan feminist Fitna Sabbah reveals in her book Woman in the Muslim Unconscious, there is a disturbing conflict in the Middle East between sexual libido and repression. A deep-seated fear of, and hostility to, individuality prevails, and its main expression exists in misogyny.
Socially segregated from women, Arab men succumb to homosexual behavior. But, interestingly enough, there is no word for "homosexual" in their culture in the modern Western sense. That is because having sex with boys, or with effeminate men, is seen as a social norm. Males serve as available substitutes for unavailable women. The male who does the penetrating, meanwhile, is not emasculated any more than if he had sex with a wife. The male who is penetrated is emasculated. The boy, however, is not, since it is rationalized that he is not yet a man.
In this culture, males sexually penetrating males becomes a manifestation of male power, conferring a status of hyper-masculinity. It is considered to have nothing to do with homosexuality. An unmarried man who has sex with boys is simply doing what men do. As the scholar Bruce Dunne has demonstrated, sex in Islamic societies is not about mutuality between partners, but about the adult male's achievement of pleasure through violent domination.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=246

its no wonder that was the firt place micahel jackson took off to

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Army Releases Captured War On Terror Documents

Help Wanted: Must be skilled in firing light arms and have knowledge in using explosives. Must have sufficient religious knowledge to enable him carry-out his duties.
Via Austin Bay (http://austinbay.net/blog/?p=929) a treasure trove of reading at West Point (http://www.ctc.usma.edu/aq_harmonylist.asp). Check out the bylaws (http://www.ctc.usma.edu/aq/AFGP-2002-600048-Trans.pdf) from which I extracted the above snippet. Find out what an al Qaeda operative makes, his vacation and medical benefits.
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March 04, 2006

Arguing men put on separate flights

From DPA (http://www.asianage.com/main.asp?layout=2&cat1=2&cat2=31&newsid=211540&RF=DefaultMain), with thanks to Mike:

Athens: An Orthodox Christian and a Muslim man who were travelling to Germany were forcibly put on separate flights after they began fighting over their religious beliefs at the international airport here, reports said on Thursday. The men, bound for a flight to Frankfurt, began arguing on the bus as they were being transferred from the terminal to the plane.
According to reports, the two men started fighting over who was the more religious of the two when the Muslim man, fed up with being attacked, suddenly exclaimed that he was going to blow up everyone on the plane.
Well, that certainly proves that he was the more religious of the two.
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the Muslim man, fed up with being attacked, suddenly exclaimed that he was going to blow up everyone on the plane.



Why isn't he in jail? When are we going to squash this behavior?

Make Saudi Arabia a one way ticket for people who stoop to this level.

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http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=99839
Quote:
The Palestinian Authority's ruling Hamas terror group has launched a web site for children, preaching the moral desirability of being a suicide terrorist via cartoons and children's stories.

The Hamas-run Al-Fateh.net glorifies shahada, martyrdom, and presents the deaths of terrorists attacking Israelis as a time of celebration, according to a report by Palestinian Media Watch.

One of the stories on the site quotes a mother saying that when she heard her son had become a shahid, a martyr, she bought dates, candies and coffee to give out. An entire section of the site is called "Stories of the Shahids," and the most recently posted story honors Hamas terrorist Naseem Ja'abari, who murdered 16 people when he blew himself up on a bus in Be'er Sheva on August 31, 2004.

The page is egalitarian in its encouragement of martyrdom, with a prominently featured drawing of a religiously garbed girl participating in violent attacks (pictured above) on both the homepage and on a second page. The drawing is accompanied by a poem glorifying Jihad, Islamic conquest, and Shahada.

Hamas won the Palestinian Authority's parliamentary elections in January by a large majority, and has since been subject to requests and demands that it at least verbally recognize Israel. On the web site, though, according to PMW, "Israel is repeatedly referred to as 'thief' and 'invader,' and its defeat in battle is both desired and anticipated."

Though the site shares its name with Yasser Arafat's rival terror group, Al-Fateh, the name means "The Conqueror" and is run by Hamas.

The following are excerpts from PMW's translation of a poem on the site and excerpts from the "Stories of the Shahids" section:

We Rose Up
We rose up against the thieves
We rose up against [them], and we shall never surrender
We will rise up in determination, like our ancestors
We will sacrifice, sacrifice our lives

Our father's bidding has taught us
That Jihad is the eternal path
And that the oppressors will be defeated...
We have become devoted and we will never surrender
One day we will defeat all the invaders
We bless and honor the proud
The blood of the shahid has taught us
That Shahada is a new life
O Allah, bless the steps of the rebels
Indeed, Shahada is an open victory
[Al-Fateh website, March 7, 2006]

Stories of the Shahids
"...Our shahid today is the the Shahada-seeker, the hero Naseem Al-Ja'abari."

Naseem's mother tells of her son's merits and says that when she heard of his terrorist action, she took the money he had left her and "went to buy dates and candies for the people who came to congratulate [us]." She goes on to tell how she heard her son committed the suicide bombing. Finally, she sends her greetings to all those people who want to become shahids.

Naseem's mother also gloats that in light of "the success of the heroic attack in Be'er Sheva, the Zionist Secret Service admitted they failed in eliminating the Resistance [euphemism for terror group], its roots and infrastructure".
[Al-Fateh website, March 7, 2006]

[KAOSKTRL]

woo hoo
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It was designed for the modern battlefield where troops may be wearing body armor and conventional pistol or submachine gun rounds may be ineffective. The only commercially sold firearms that utilize this cartridge are the Five-seveN (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five-seveN) pistol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistol) and the FN P90 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_P90) personal defense weapon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_defense_weapon). A third-party weapon system is being developed by Singapore Technologies Kinetics, using the cartridge in the kinetic component of their Squad Support Weapon (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Squad_Support_Weapon&action=edit).
The 5.7 x 28 mm round, while touted as a solution to defeating modern body armor with a pistol round, is viewed skeptically by some military and police personnel. Many regard the 5.7 mm as having insufficient stopping power for law enforcement use and the topic has seen much controversy.






......FN has contracted Fiocchi Ammunition to manufacture SS196 and SS197 ammunition in the U.S. as a measure of reducing the price, while the SS195LF will continue to be imported from Belgium. Wolf Ammunition has stated plans to produce 5.7 x 28 mm ammunition toward the end of 2006. There is currently an online petition to urge Winchester to resume production of 5.7 x 28 mm cartridges.

[Sage]

1/20/06 Indonesia Waghete 4 1 Indonesians kill four unarmed teenagers (ages 13 to 15) in an unprovoked attack as they are walking to school. A fifth boy is severely beaten.

12/31/05 Indonesia Sulawesi 8 45 Eight Christians are killed when Islamists bomb a market selling pork at a time when it is packed with shoppers. The bomb was packed with nails.

11/19/05 Indonesia Palu 0 2 Christian couple shot by radical Muslims while on their way to church.

11/18/05 Indonesia Palu 1 1 Machete-wielders attack and nearly decapitate a 23-year-old cosmetics salesgirl. Her 20-year-old companion's left arm is nearly hacked off as well.

11/8/05 Indonesia Poso 0 2 Two Christian 17-year-old girls are shot in the head in a brutal attack only a few days after three others were beheaded.

10/29/05 Indonesia Bukit Bambu 3 1 Three Christian 16-year-old girls on their way to school are attacked and beheaded by six Muslim gentlemen, who leave the headless bodies in the street and carry the heads to a different location.

10/1/05 Indonesia Bali 19 132 Islamic suicide bombers murder nineteen people, mostly tourists, at two cafes and a restaurant in three coordinated attacks. Over one-hundred are injured.

[KAOSKTRL]

http://www.alqudsjeans.com/inglese/chi_siamo.html
this will make the killers easy to identify

[Sage]

funny how they try to look like the kafir wearing the same materials and styles, but as long as it has that muzz name they will but it and think they are superior. i think i may have to go into businees and make some muzz stuff and sell it to them, put some fake muzzy name on it and they will look just like the kafirs around them and they wont even know its a kafir making the money they think the money is going to some moham..lol, what a good idea!!

[Camp]

http://www.alqudsjeans.com/inglese/chi_siamo.html
this will make the killers easy to identify


Made and headquartered in Italy of all places. Instead of ports maybe the UAE could give this market a whirl. Looks wide open.

Imitatation the most sincere form of flattery. The mohammadist would scream "quit copying me" if the west suddenly found bedsheets "fashionable."

[KAOSKTRL]

Issues & Insights
Religion Of Peace?

Posted 3/27/2006

War On Terror: In the wake of the cartoon jihad and mosque-on-mosque violence in Iraq, most Americans now think Islam has more violent believers than any other faith. Yet many still view it as a "peaceful religion."

Psychologists might call this cognitive dissonance — a state of mind where rational people essentially lie to themselves. But in this case, it's understandable. In our politically correct culture, criticizing any religion, even one that plots our destruction, is still taboo. And no one wants to suggest the terrorists are driven by their holy text.

Which explains a Washington Post-ABC News poll showing that Americans are becoming more aware of the broader threat (58% associate terrorists with Islam), but are still convinced terrorists are radicalizing Islam and not the other way around (54% don't think Islam itself encourages violence).

The new poll, however, still doesn't sit well with the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), a group dedicated to improving public perceptions of Islam. It has denounced increasingly negative views as "Islamophobic" and vowed to redouble its "education" efforts.

Good. What better time for CAIR and other Muslim leaders to step up, cut through the politically correct fog and provide factual answers to the questions that give so many non-Muslims pause?

Generally speaking, those questions focus on whether the Quran does indeed promote violence against non-Muslims, and how many of the terrorists' ideas — about the violent jihad, the self-immolation, the kidnappings, even the beheadings — come right out of the text? But even more specifically:

Is Islam the only religion with a doctrine, theology and legal system that mandates warfare against unbelievers?

Is it true that 26 chapters of the Quran deal with jihad, a fight able-bodied believers are obligated to join (Surah 2:216), and that the text orders Muslims to "instill terror into the hearts of the unbeliever" and to "smite above their necks" (8:12)?

Is the "test" of loyalty to Allah not good acts or faith in general, but martyrdom that results from fighting unbelievers (47:4) — the only assurance of salvation in Islam (4:74; 9:111)?

Are the sins of any Muslim who becomes a martyr forgiven by the very act of being slain while slaying the unbelievers (4:96)?

And is it really true that martyrs are rewarded with virgins, among other carnal delights, in Paradise (38:51, 55:56; 55:76; 56:22)?

Are those unable to do jihad — such as women or the elderly — required to give "asylum and aid" to those who do fight unbelievers in the cause of Allah (8:74)?

Does Islam advocate expansion by force? And is the final command of jihad, as revealed to Muhammad in the Quran, to conquer the world in the name of Islam (9:29)?

Is Islam the only religion that does not teach the Golden Rule (48:29)? Does the Quran instead teach violence and hatred against non-Muslims, specifically Jews and Christians (5:50)?

There are other questions, but these should do for a start. If the answers are "yes," then at least Americans will know there's no such thing as moderate Islam, even as they trust that there are moderate Muslims who do not act out on its violent commands.

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http://www.investors.com/editorial/IBDArticles.asp?artsec=20&artnum=3&issue=20060327&view=1

[fuzzi pariah]

What? No one wants to refute this and explain how Islam is really a religion of peace?

:rolleyes:


http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=99839
Quote:
The Palestinian Authority's ruling Hamas terror group has launched a web site for children, preaching the moral desirability of being a suicide terrorist via cartoons and children's stories.

The Hamas-run Al-Fateh.net glorifies shahada, martyrdom, and presents the deaths of terrorists attacking Israelis as a time of celebration, according to a report by Palestinian Media Watch.

One of the stories on the site quotes a mother saying that when she heard her son had become a shahid, a martyr, she bought dates, candies and coffee to give out. An entire section of the site is called "Stories of the Shahids," and the most recently posted story honors Hamas terrorist Naseem Ja'abari, who murdered 16 people when he blew himself up on a bus in Be'er Sheva on August 31, 2004.

The page is egalitarian in its encouragement of martyrdom, with a prominently featured drawing of a religiously garbed girl participating in violent attacks (pictured above) on both the homepage and on a second page. The drawing is accompanied by a poem glorifying Jihad, Islamic conquest, and Shahada.

Hamas won the Palestinian Authority's parliamentary elections in January by a large majority, and has since been subject to requests and demands that it at least verbally recognize Israel. On the web site, though, according to PMW, "Israel is repeatedly referred to as 'thief' and 'invader,' and its defeat in battle is both desired and anticipated."

Though the site shares its name with Yasser Arafat's rival terror group, Al-Fateh, the name means "The Conqueror" and is run by Hamas.

The following are excerpts from PMW's translation of a poem on the site and excerpts from the "Stories of the Shahids" section:

We Rose Up
We rose up against the thieves
We rose up against [them], and we shall never surrender
We will rise up in determination, like our ancestors
We will sacrifice, sacrifice our lives

Our father's bidding has taught us
That Jihad is the eternal path
And that the oppressors will be defeated...
We have become devoted and we will never surrender
One day we will defeat all the invaders
We bless and honor the proud
The blood of the shahid has taught us
That Shahada is a new life
O Allah, bless the steps of the rebels
Indeed, Shahada is an open victory
[Al-Fateh website, March 7, 2006]

Stories of the Shahids
"...Our shahid today is the the Shahada-seeker, the hero Naseem Al-Ja'abari."

Naseem's mother tells of her son's merits and says that when she heard of his terrorist action, she took the money he had left her and "went to buy dates and candies for the people who came to congratulate [us]." She goes on to tell how she heard her son committed the suicide bombing. Finally, she sends her greetings to all those people who want to become shahids.

Naseem's mother also gloats that in light of "the success of the heroic attack in Be'er Sheva, the Zionist Secret Service admitted they failed in eliminating the Resistance [euphemism for terror group], its roots and infrastructure".
[Al-Fateh website, March 7, 2006]

[Camp]

It should be enough they say it is peaceful, while the jihad in the Sudan wages on.

Did you see the arab league was to meet in Sudan and all the "big" players refused to show up, but they will not lift a finger to denounce or stop the jihad.

[fuzzi pariah]

It should be enough they say it is peaceful, while the jihad in the Sudan wages on.

Did you see the arab league was to meet in Sudan and all the "big" players refused to show up, but they will not lift a finger to denounce or stop the jihad.
Well, of course it will be peaceful, once everyone is either converted or is a dhimmi, under Sharia law. If you don't agree...off with your head!

That would keep it quite peaceful, indeed.

[Sage]

Sodomizing Rover


Pro-islamic municipalities in Turkey are killing stray dogs, animal rights groups claim.

Municipal workers are hunting, torturing and killing the animals by the hundreds, the campaigners say.

The allegations surfaced when Burcu Isikalp, a young veterinary surgeon, went searching for seven strays she had been caring for near her home in the capital, Ankara. Witnesses told her that municipal workers had taken them away.

She went to Ankara's largest refuse dump, Mamak, where she found one of the strays with hundreds of other dogs. "They were all dead, stacked in large pits," she said. "We also found 10 dead puppies in a bound plastic bag. There is a myth among pious Muslims that dogs are unclean."

Animal rights campaigners who accompanied Miss Isikalp last week said that at least two of the dogs had been sexually abused.

[KAOSKTRL]

http://www.aina.org/news/2006033195801.htm
Quote:
"All religions other than Islam are heresy and error. Any place designated for worship other than [that of] Islam is a place of heresy and error, for it is forbidden to worship Allah in any way other than the way that Allah has prescribed in Islam. The law of Islam (shari'a) is the final and definitive religious law. It applies to all men and jinns and abrogates all that came before it. This is a matter about which there is consensus.

"Those who claim that there is truth in what the Jews say, or in what the Christians say - whether he is one of them or not - is denying the Koran and the Prophet Muhammad's sunna and the consensus of the Muslim nation… Allah said: 'The only reason I sent you was to bring good tidings and warnings to all [Koran 34:28]'; 'Oh people, I am Allah's Messenger to you all [Koran 7:158]'; 'Allah's religion is Islam [3:19]'; 'Whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him [3:85]'; 'The unbelievers from among the people of the Book [i.e. Jews and Christians] and the polytheists are in hellfire and will be [there] forever. They are the worst of all creation… [98:6].'

"Therefore, religion necessitates the prohibition of unbelief, and this requires the prohibition of worshiping Allah in any way other than that of the Islamic shari'a. Included in this is the prohibition against building houses of worship according to the abrogated religious laws, Jewish or Christian or anything else, since these houses of worship - whether they be churches or other houses of worship - are considered heretical houses of worship, because the worship that is practiced in them is in violation of the Islamic shari'a, which abrogates all religious law that came before it. Allah says about the unbelievers and their deeds: 'I will turn to every deed they have done and I will make them into dust in the wind [Koran 25:23].'

"Thus the 'ulama agreed that it is forbidden to build heretical houses of worship - such as Christian churches - in a Muslim country, and that it is forbidden for there to be two directions of prayer coexisting in a Muslim country, and that there should be no symbol of unbelief, neither churches nor anything else. They agreed that it is obligatory to destroy any church or other heretical house of worship that was built after [the advent of] Islam, and it is forbidden to oppose the ruler in the matter of its destruction, and he must be obeyed...

[Sage]

http://www.expatica.com/source/site_article.asp?subchannel_id=26&story_id=28932&n ame=Police+brought+in+as+teachers+lose+control+at+ Berlin+school (http://www.expatica.com/source/site_article.asp?subchannel_id=26&story_id=28932&name=Police+brought+in+as+teachers+lose+control+at +Berlin+school)

Quote:
Police brought in as teachers lose control at Berlin school

31 March 2006
BERLIN - Violence at a Berlin school dominated by Arab and Turkish youths and the nearby slaying of police officer, shot in the head while trying to arrest muggers, has fuelled alarm that troubled parts of the German capital are lurching out of control.

Police have now been brought in to help control the situation at the Ruetli school in the immigrant-dominated Neukoelln district, with six officers checking students for weapons.

Teachers at the school published a letter this week widely interpreted as saying conditions at their school had become so bad that it should be closed down.

The letter said teachers had lost all authority and were now so afraid that they only entered classrooms with a mobile phone so they could call for help in an emergency.

"The mood ... is dominated by aggression, lack of respect and ignorance," said the letter, adding: "We have reached a dead end and there is no way to turn around."

When reporters went to school on Thursday they were pelted with paving stones by masked youths from the schoolyard as the district's mayor stood helplessly at the entrance of the building.

"While sheer chaos dominated behind him, the mayor talked about the failures of the 1968 generation," jeered the Berliner Kurier newspaper.

Teachers complain that over 83 per cent of the 224 children attending the school are foreigners. The biggest group, 35 per cent, are Arab children mainly from Lebanon and the Palestinian territories.

Turks, with 26 per cent, comprise the second largest group at the school.
Germany has about 7.3 million foreigners or 9 per cent of the total population.

A problem in German schools is that especially Arab male students often refuse to respect the authority of women teachers, education sources told Deutsche Presse-Agentur.

Peter Struck, education specialist at the University of Hamburg, was blunt about problems posed by foreign students in German schools which separate children headed for university and those who are not, who get dumped in less-competitive "Hauptschulen."

"It is often Hauptschulen which are hit with difficulties because they have a concentration of problem students and high number of foreigners which means that the boys are often being raised in a home environment which glorifies violence," said Struck in an NDR radio interview.

Students at the Ruetli Hauptschule were not shy about expressing their views to reporters.

"The German (students) brown nose us, pay for things for us and stuff like that, so that we don't smash in their faces," said a foreign student from the school as quoted by the Berliner Kurier.

But there are also conflicts between Arab and Turkish students, mirrored in battles between the city's foreign-dominated youth gangs.

Integration of foreign youths in Berlin is often poor. Even second and third generation children frequently do not speak fluent German and many fail to complete school - all of which leads to a high jobless rate among immigrant youths.

White German families are moving out of districts like Neukoelln and into better parts of the 3.4 million metropolis or into new suburbs ringing the city which were swiftly built after the 1989 opening of the Berlin Wall.

Berlin's education senator, Klaus Boeger, rejected any idea of closing the Ruetli School and police are now on duty around the building. Arabic and Turkish speaking social workers have been rushed into the school.

Meanwhile, the funeral was took place Friday of a police office whose brutal slaying earlier this month in Neukoelln shocked the city.

Uwe Lieschied was shot in the head at close range after he tried to arrest two men who had been involved in a street robbery. Declared brain-dead by doctors, he died after being in a coma for several days.

Lieschied, aged 42, was well-known officer in the district who was involved in efforts to clean up the notorious drug-dealing scene in Neukoelln's Hasenheide Park.

Police have arrested two unemployed men of Turkish origin in connection with the killing and officials say one of them has confessed to shooting the officer.

Germany has strict gun control laws and the shooting of police officers or use of firearms in murders is generally rare.

"The German (students) brown nose us, pay for things for us and stuff like that, so that we don't smash in their faces," said a foreign student from the school as quoted by the Berliner Kurier.

Religion of peace

I think what they really mean by "religion of peace" is "religion of a piece of shit"

[KAOSKTRL]

April 15, 2006

Unlikely Candidate for Car Bomber?

In "Unlikely Candidate for Car Bomber," the LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-suicide15apr15,0,6622767,full.story?coll=la-headlines-california) (thanks to Warren) scratches his head and wonders how a party animal like Raed Albanna could end up being a suicide bomber. All this head-scratching results, of course, from ignorance of the jihad ideology and how people can come to hold it. Any Muslim, like Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar (http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/010737.php), can turn from partier to shahid simply by reading the Qur'an. Anyone reading this who finds that assertion offensive is invited write in to me at director@jihadwatch.org and explain how it can be prevented. But the Muslims who are perpetrating violent acts all over the world are justifying them by the Qur'an, and I doubt that Taheri-azar is the first jihad freelancer to get his ideas straight from the book, without participating in terrorist groups.
Raed Albanna may not have had a change of heart. He may always have believed in the things that led him to become a jihad-martyrdom bomber. That would not have prevented him from being a party animal, as he would have known that all his sins would soon be washed away by his great act of killing infidels and dying in the process.
Finally, it is also possible that he was coerced, since his hand was chained to the steering wheel. But his behavior in Hollywood is not necessarily evidence of this coercion -- and there is plenty in this head-scratching article that suggests that he was not coerced.

There was nothing like it in Jordan, Raed Mansour Albanna told his American friend. They were in a Hollywood club and — fueled with beer and shots of Jagermeister — Albanna was dancing with abandon. The pounding music was liberating and the young Muslim was on his game. It was a few months before 9/11, and Albanna had left the constraints of his Islamic country far behind. In America, friends said, he had found what he was looking for — sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll.
"He was into partying. We hit some pretty wild clubs in Hollywood," said Steve Gray, who worked with Albanna at Ontario International Airport and considered him a close friend.
Albanna, 32, had a fondness for American women, the grunge sound of Nirvana and Harley-Davidson motorcycles and the bad-boy image they conveyed. He told friends he loved the freedom he felt in America.
All the more reason his friends were dumbfounded when they were told that the funloving Jordanian had become a suicide car bomber, pulling off the deadliest single attack in Iraq. U.S. authorities said he killed 132 Iraqis outside a Hillah medical clinic Feb. 28, 2005.
A hand chained to a steering wheel revealed fingerprints that identified him as the bomber. It was the only body part that remained.
While the unlikely background of the bomber was made public in media accounts, recent interviews offer a clearer view of how Albanna's initial anguish over the 2001 terrorist attacks seemed to degenerate to a deep anger and frustration.
At the time of the bombing, Albanna's friends in Southern California found it unthinkable that a man who had embraced the United States with such gusto would trigger such carnage in the name of Al Qaeda.
Albanna was "the last person I thought would become a terrorist," said Lee Khalaf, a friend.
Barely 5 foot 5, dark-haired and blessed with a disarming smile, Albanna had grown up in a middle-class family in Jordan. His parents did not emphasize religion. He became a lawyer, but soured on the profession after failing to attract clients and felt he had disappointed his father, who continued to support him financially.
When he came to the United States on a tourist visa in early 2001, Albanna was searching for a fresh start, his family said. He settled in Rancho Cucamonga, where his friend William Khalaf lived. The two had known each other since the seventh grade in Jordan.
Friends and family say he quickly plunged into a fast-paced, hedonistic lifestyle. Gray and others said he smoked pot, was a fan of nihilistic rock groups such as Nirvana and Nine Inch Nails and reveled in the Hollywood club scene.
Albanna's family knew of his fun-loving ways in the United States, said his mother, Hiyat Nareman....
Albanna was not easily defined. Friends recalled him as both a party animal and a thoughtful, generous soul. And they saw sides of him that were as different as the names he used.
Gray and other co-workers knew him as Raed.
He told others that his name was Ryan, and his English, which he learned in Jordanian schools, was good enough to help him succeed with women.
Christine Gonzalez, a Riverside salon owner, said the stylists "who cut Ryan's hair thought he was incredibly good looking."
"The girls liked taking care of him. He was a really nice guy, always telling jokes and making us laugh. I was really shocked by what he did," she said....
On Sept. 11, 2001, Gray and Albanna were working as pedicab drivers at the airport.
When word of the terrorist attacks ricocheted through the terminal, the two friends crowded into an airport bar with dozens of horrified passengers and employees and watched on television as the World Trade Center towers and walls of the Pentagon crumbled.
"People were crying, but nobody was talking," said Gray, a pony-tailed ex-roadie for a rock band. "Nobody knew what to say. Everyone's eyes were glued to the TV."
After Islamic extremists were linked to the attacks, Gray said an anguished Albanna turned to him and said: "Not all Muslims are like that. Not all of us hate America."
Like Gray, William and Lee Khalaf said Albanna appeared genuinely horrified by the terrorist attacks. William Khalaf, a nonpracticing Muslim, said his friend openly expressed his hatred for Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda.
"At the time, he hated the terrorists," said Lee Khalaf. "That's why I don't understand why he joined them."
How to explain Albanna's transition from a secular Muslim to an Islamic terrorist?
His family was at a loss.
His friends said they saw no such evidence.
Yet, there were small signs of change toward the end.
A month or so before returning to Jordan in late 2002, Albanna began attending mosque and praying five times a day, like a devout Muslim.
Albanna's mother said she was puzzled by his sudden devotion.
"He didn't used to pray or fast before," Nareman said. "He only started that after he came from America."
Kamal Nawash, president of the Free Muslims Coalition, cautioned against connecting Albanna's sudden devotion to Islam to "his terrible deed."
The Washington-based group was formed to promote secular democracy in the Middle East.
"Being a devout Muslim doesn't necessarily lead you to become a suicide bomber. If that was the case, the world would be in a disastrous situation," said Nawash, who calls himself a conservative Muslim. "Assuming that he was mentally sound, it sounds like he had a political grievance or fell into a crowd of fanatical Muslims."
No, Kamal, being a devout Muslim doesn't necessarily lead you to become a suicide bomber. But where are the Muslim suicide bombers who have not been devout?

William Khalaf said Albanna's conversion caused a rift in their friendship: "All of a sudden he was telling me I was a bad Muslim because I don't go to mosque. We stopped talking." Lee Khalaf said the change was abrupt. "One day he simply said he was tired of living like he was — drinking, womanizing and the like. He said God had a purpose for him, but never said what it was."
Albanna's religious conversion may have occurred after 9/11, when other pedicab drivers began bringing up his Arabic background and the fact that he was Muslim, Gray suggested. None of that seemed to matter before the terrorist attacks, he said.
He recalled one morning when an angry Albanna yelled at a co-worker he thought was defaming Islam and threatened to kill him.
He quit later in the day, Gray said....
His father says:

"I would be surprised if such an educated person wanted to be a suicide bomber. Maybe he wanted to get out of the car. Maybe he tried to get out." But study after study has shown that suicide bombers are generally better educated than their peers (http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=10282). Papa is purveying a myth.
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So of his own free will("A hand chained to a steering wheel revealed fingerprints that identified him as the bomber. It was the only body part that remained") he became a suicide bomber???????????????
And now he is with the virgins.............
Posted by: chuck http://www.jihadwatch.org/nav-commenters.gif (http://profile.typekey.com/smilinjack1) at April 15, 2006 08:25 AM (http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/011039.php#c203092)
"he quickly plunged into a fast-paced, hedonistic lifestyle. Gray and others said he smoked pot, was a fan of nihilistic rock groups such as Nirvana and Nine Inch Nails and reveled in the Hollywood club scene."
--- from the article above
That is the Arab idea, apparently, of what the West mainly has to offer -- or at least it was Al-Banna's idea. Not the Bill of Rights, not science, not art, but "Nirvana and Nine Inch Nails" and the "Hollywood club scene." Why should it be otherwise? Coming from a world, and a belief-system, that stunted his mental growth, he saw the "freedoms" of the West only in the stupidest and most intolerable of terms, and it was that emptiness that he enjoyed, and it was all he knew of the West (for that matter, what did Mohammed Atta or his companions know, what could they have known, given how ordinary they were, of the West?)tried, before returning, or re-embracing, or embracing for the first time, that other Emptiness that seems to be the opposite, but in reality is an enantiomorph, of the dismal world of the West at its most intolerably stupid -- the Rigidity of Islam. Both Islam, and the "Hollywood club scene," are the enemies of intelligence and of mental freedom.
I once attended a lecture given by the highly intelligent Jose Figueres, by then the Grand Old Man of Costa Rica. He had been in the United States as a pooor student, and there, he said, he had devoured the political works of the Framers, and the speeches of Lincoln, and had studied them carefully. It made a good story, but it also happened to be true. That was the America that some who came from outside once discovered, admired, studied. Perhaps, in the degradation of our own dogma, some of us -- those whose idea of living is the "Hollywood club scene," deserve Islam as the only alternative.
But what about the rest of us? We don't.
Posted by: Hugh http://www.jihadwatch.org/nav-commenters.gif (http://profile.typekey.com/HughF) at April 15, 2006 09:06 AM (http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/011039.php#c203093)
"Lee Khalaf said the change was abrupt"
Not really. Raed Albanna did not change at all, he merely went to the other side of his death-wish. I think psychologists call the process reaction formation. He was a nihilist.

Posted by: Frank http://www.jihadwatch.org/nav-commenters.gif (http://profile.typekey.com/Frankthegreat) at April 15, 2006 09:09 AM (http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/011039.php#c203094)

[KAOSKTRL]

April 17, 2006

Misunderstanders of Islam behead US "collaborators"

Don't these guys know that Islam forbids beheading? After all, that's what so many talking heads (unbeheaded) told us on the news shows during the spate of beheadings in Iraq.
In fact, these men are acting in accord with Qur'an 47:4, which tells believers to "strike the necks" of the unbelievers.
"Militants behead US 'collaborators,'" from AFP (http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,18843394-401,00.html), with thanks to JE:

SUSPECTED pro-Taliban militants beheaded two tribesmen in a remote part of Pakistan for allegedly working for US forces across the border in Afghanistan, officials said today. Gunmen captured one of the tribesmen, who had been supplying food to US troops in Afghanistan, and killed him in the town of Khar Qamar in the restive North Waziristan region on yesterday, a security official said.
"They beheaded the man and fled in his vehicle," the official said on condition of anonymity. "He was well known as someone who supplied food to the Americans."
Residents also found the headless body of a man in Madhakhel, another town in the region where Pakistani forces have been battling Taliban fugitives and al-Qaeda linked militants, the official added.
A note found near the body claimed the slain man was a US spy. "All those working as US spies will face the same fate," the official quoted the note as saying.

[Camp]

They also forgot to mention that body mutilation (suicide bomber) prevents entrance to allahs speak easy in the clouds.

Ooopsie.

[Invisoclam]

Apostate lies!
Peace and justice are what Islam is all about!








or else!

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[Camp]

She was kinda hot, but the headscarf is a big turn-off. I like the long flowing natural hair look myself.

[KAOSKTRL]

HALA JABER
EVEN by the stupefying standards of Iraq’s unspeakable violence, the murder of Atwar Bahjat, one of the country’s top television journalists, was an act of exceptional cruelty.
Nobody but her killers knew just how much she had suffered until a film showing her death on February 22 at the hands of two musclebound men in military uniforms emerged last week. Her family’s worst fears of what might have happened have been far exceeded by the reality.
NI_MPU('middle');Bahjat was abducted after making three live broadcasts from the edge of her native city of Samarra on the day its golden-domed Shi’ite mosque was blown up, allegedly by Sunni terrorists.
Roadblocks prevented her from entering the city and her anxiety was obvious to everyone who saw her final report. Night was falling and tensions were high.
Two men drove up in a pick-up truck, asking for her. She appealed to a small crowd that had gathered around her crew but nobody was willing to help her. It was reported at the time that she had been shot dead with her cameraman and sound man.
We now know that it was not that swift for Bahjat. First she was stripped to the waist, a humiliation for any woman but particularly so for a pious Muslim who concealed her hair, arms and legs from men other than her father and brother.
Then her arms were bound behind her back. A golden locket in the shape of Iraq that became her glittering trademark in front of the television cameras must have been removed at some point — it is nowhere to be seen in the grainy film, which was made by someone who pointed a mobile phone at her as she lay on a patch of earth in mortal terror.
By the time filming begins, the condemned woman has been blindfolded with a white bandage.
It is stained with blood that trickles from a wound on the left side of her head. She is moaning, although whether from the pain of what has already been done to her or from the fear of what is about to be inflicted is unclear.
Just as Bahjat bore witness to countless atrocities that she covered for her television station, Al-Arabiya, during Iraq’s descent into sectarian conflict, so the recording of her execution embodies the depths of the country’s depravity after three years of war.
A large man dressed in military fatigues, boots and cap approaches from behind and covers her mouth with his left hand. In his right hand, he clutches a large knife with a black handle and an 8in blade. He proceeds to cut her throat from the middle, slicing from side to side.
Her cries — “Ah, ah, ah” — can be heard above the “Allahu akbar” (God is greatest) intoned by the holder of the mobile phone.
Even then, there is no quick release for Bahjat. Her executioner suddenly stands up, his job only half done. A second man in a dark T-shirt and camouflage trousers places his right khaki boot on her abdomen and pushes down hard eight times, forcing a rush of blood from her wounds as she moves her head from right to left.
Only now does the executioner return to finish the task. He hacks off her head and drops it to the ground, then picks it up again and perches it on her bare chest so that it faces the film-maker in a grotesque parody of one of her pieces to camera.
The voice of one of the Arab world’s most highly regarded and outspoken journalists has been silenced. She was 30.
As a friend of Bahjat who had worked with her on a variety of tough assignments, I found it hard enough to bear the news of her murder. When I saw it replayed, it was as if part of me had died with her. How much more gruelling it must have been for a close family friend who watched the film this weekend and cried when he heard her voice. The friend, who cannot be identified, knew nothing of her beheading but had been guarding other horrifying details of Bahjat’s ordeal. She had nine drill holes in her right arm and 10 in her left, he said. The drill had also been applied to her legs, her navel and her right eye. One can only hope that these mutilations were made after her death.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...168496,00.html
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[Invisoclam]

No you got it all wrong, beause of the Imperialist Ameirkkaners, Islamic law is not in full effect in iraq and therfore this is merely a case for it to be applied!




















....sarcasism of course.....

[Sage]

Arab Muslim mob lynches porno actress

Israeli TV Channel 1 reports that a mob of angry Arab Muslim men lynched an Israeli Arab woman who had taken a part in a porno movie.

http://www.factsofisrael.com/en/images/articles/amal1.jpg

Amal Kashua, the first Israeli Arab/Muslim woman in a porno movie Amal Kashua, an Israeli Arab/Muslim mother of 8, took part in a porno movie with her partner, Yusuf. Last week, a mob of angry out-of-control Israeli Arab Muslims from the village of Tira attacked her with clubs and rocks. Amal is in an Israeli hospital, in serious condition.

The report starts with an Arab Israeli woman covered in a burka. She categorically says that “any woman who takes part in something like this [a porno movie] should be judged and condemned to death”.

Fatma Kashua, Amal’s mother, has published an article, declaring that her daughter is dead in her eyes. Amal’s family, including her kids, also completely reject her and do not wish to ever meet her again. Amal is not only beat up but is also very much alone.

The Imam of the Arab Muslim city of Tira, Hazi El-Hamdan, is interviewed and declares that “this is a direct attack on Islam coming through atrocities from the West”, and “Muslims have the right to defend themselves – she should be killed”.

http://www.factsofisrael.com/en/images/articles/amal2.jpg

Amal, mother of 8, beat up by an angry Muslim mob A few Israeli Arab Muslim men were arrested after the lynch. Israeli TV interviewed two thugs who categorically said they “don’t need the law from the Knesset [Israel’s parliament]”. What they need is “Islamic law, where we could stone this woman to death, to maintain Islamic values”. I guess this is the Islamic version of women rights - Amal has the right to be stoned to death, like any other Muslim woman.

What I find distressing is the fact that the whole Arab/Muslim village was unanimous in not only condemning Amal Kashua for her acts, but they all wish to use violence and murder her. They all think that Islamic law is above Israel’s laws and that they are allowed take the law into their own hands.

The report ends with Amal’s mother saying that she would never accept her daughter back, even if Amal apologized.

[Sage]

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http://www.wae.org/islam/erotic_muslims.htm

[KAOSKTRL]

August 21, 2006

British Law Against Glorifying Terrorism Has Not Silenced Calls to Kill for Islam

No surprise here, since this law was designed by British dhimmis to silence critics of jihad, not jihadists. From, of all places, the New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/21/world/europe/21london.html?ei=5090&en=0833cb1afe03f42c&ex=1313812800&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=all), with thanks to all who sent this in:

LONDON, Aug. 20 — From his home on the northwest edge of this city, Muhamad al-Massari runs a Web site that celebrates the violent death of British and American soldiers. It is visited by tens of thousands of people every day, he said. Mr. Massari maintains the Arabic-language site, tajdeed.org.uk, in the face of a strict new law aimed at curtailing violent speech and publishing. Just last week, the Council of Holy Warriors, a group affiliated with Al Qaeda, posted a declaration on the site praising a suicide bombing in Iraq that killed or wounded 55 people.
“If you kill our civilians, we kill your civilians,” Mr. Massari declared during an interview.
Mr. Massari’s Web site, and his public remarks, appear to violate of the Antiterrorism Act of 2006, which makes it a crime to glorify or encourage political violence. Inciting violence has long been illegal here but the new rules, drawn up after the London subway and bus bombings in July 2005, are intended to be much tougher.
The law’s underlying assumption is that speeches and publications by Britain’s more extreme Islamists may play a role in leading disgruntled young men toward violence. In addition to banning speech that encourages terrorism, the new law also criminalizes reckless speech that may have the same effect.
Yet despite the antiglorification law, and an array of other measures approved since last summer’s bombings, Islamist leaders like Mr. Massari persist, some of them declaring it the duty of British Muslims to kill in the name of Islam.
Some British leaders are beginning to publicly question why such clerics are allowed to continue. Last week, David Cameron, the leader of the Conservative Party, chastised the government of Prime Minister Tony Blair for failing to enforce laws intended to make it more difficult for political extremists to operate.
In remarks to the press, Mr. Cameron, a possible successor to Mr. Blair, accused the government of failing to “follow through when the headlines have moved on.”
“I do not believe that our government is doing enough to fight Islamist extremists at home or to protect our security,’’ he said. “Why have so few, if any, preachers of hate been prosecuted or expelled, with those that have gone having done so voluntarily?”
In addition to curtailing political speech, the British government outlawed 15 militant groups, most of them Muslim. It took a sterner attitude toward Islamists who had preached violence in the past, barring one well-known Syrian-born cleric, Omar Bakri Mohammed, from returning to the country. Earlier this year, it secured the conviction of Abu Hamza al-Masri, the country’s most militant cleric, for soliciting murder and racial hatred.
Yet for all those actions, the new measures do not appear to have silenced those either praising or calling for violence in the name of Islam. Some Islamist preachers have carefully scaled back their language, even if, in context, the meaning seems clear.
On Sunday, speaking before 8,000 followers in Manchester, Azam Tamimi extolled the glories of suffering for the faith.
“The greatest act of martyrdom is standing up for that is true and just,” Mr. Tamimi said. “Martyrs are those who stand up in defiance of George Bush and Tony Blair.”
The remarks by Mr. Tamimi, one in a line of Islamist scholars and clerics to address the Manchester crowd, were the latest in a series of carefully worded public statements by British Islamist leaders that seemed aimed at testing the limits of the new law. In the Islamic world, “martyrdom” means sacrificing one’s life, often violently, for the faith.
Others, meanwhile, have carried on as before, speaking in support of political violence or publishing tracts that do the same.
One of them is Atilla Ahmet, leader of the Islamist group Supporters of Shariah. In meetings with supporters and in interviews, the British-born Mr. Ahmet speaks freely about what he considers the necessity for violent action, both here and abroad, to avenge what he considers unjustified attacks on Muslims abroad.
“You are attacking our people in Muslim countries, in Iraq, in Afghanistan,’’ Mr. Ahmet said, referring to the British and American governments. “So it’s legitimate to attack British soldiers and policemen, government officials, and even the White House.”
Mr. Ahmet, a 42-year Briton of Cypriot descent, went on to include bank employees as legitimate targets “because they charge interest,” which he says is in violation of Islamic law.
Mr. Ahmet said he is aware of the new law, but that he could not shirk his duty to defend Islam, which he believes is under assault by Britain and the United States in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere. He says he often addresses his followers, who he says number 3,000.
“If you are going to kill a Muslim, then I will do everything in my power to kill you,’’ he said.
Mr. Massari, the Web site operator, said he approved of violence against British and American soldiers in Iraq, as well as against most of the governments in the Middle East. He said, for instance, that it “is legitimate for Iraqis to kill Tony Blair, the same with Bush.’’
The posting on his Web site about the Iraqi bombing said of the attackers, “We ask God to accept our brothers as martyrs.’’
Mr. Massari makes several distinctions that he says insulate him from being deported or prosecuted by the British government. He says, for instance, that he does not post any material on the Web site himself; he lets his members do that, most of whom sign up anonymously. The other important distinction, he said, is that he does not call for violence in Britain....
Asked why no one had been arrested or prosecuted for encouraging terrorism, a spokesman for Scotland Yard, the national police force, declined to comment.

Sure. What can they say? "We're spineless, terrified, cringing dhimmis"?

The Bush administration, under laws toughened after the Sept. 11 attacks, has prosecuted a number of people for encouraging terrorism. In one of the more high-profile cases, a Muslim scholar in northern Virginia, Ali al-Timimi, was sentenced to life in prison in 2005 for urging his young Muslim followers to wage war against the United States overseas.
At a dinner meeting on Sept. 16, 2001, Mr. Timimi told some of the men in the group that it was their Muslim duty to fight for Islam overseas and to defend the Taliban in Afghanistan against American forces, according to testimony at his trial. In an Internet message in 2003, he described the destruction of the space shuttle Columbia as a “good omen” for Muslims in an apocalyptic conflict with the West....
“Anyone who supports Tony Blair,’’ said Khalid Kelley, an Irish-born convert to Islam, “is not a civilian.’’

Remember that one the next time a "moderate Muslim" assures you that Islam forbids the killing of civilians.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/012803.php#comments

[KAOSKTRL]

August 24, 2006

Jihadist website publishes instructions: How to kill a Westerner

And yet despite the fact that these instructions include the directive not to appear too obviously Islamic, echoing an Al-Qaeda manual discovered recently, Western journalists will no doubt continue to point to the Western dress of those arrested for jihad terror activity as evidence that they were not actually observant Muslims. "Islamist Al-Hesbah Website Plan of Action for the Jihad Fighter: How to Kill a Westerner in the Arabian Peninsula," from MEMRI (http://www.memri.org/bin/opener_latest.cgi?ID=SD126306), with thanks to all who sent this in:

On August 4, 2006, the Al-Hesbah website published instructions on "How to Kill a Crusader in the Arabian Peninsula." The document was signed by Amer Al-Najdi, and dated June 15, 2006. [...]
"Below I will explain the jihadist way of action and the security measures to be employed by the jihad fighter [when he wants to kill a Westerner]:
"First of all, before carrying out the operation, pray [to Allah] to guide you on the good path.
"[Regarding your] external appearance - Try as much as possible to look like someone who is not religious. For example, wear [a kuffiyeh] with an 'aqal instead of a turban, and wear cheap dark glasses during the day and regular glasses at night. Your clothes must be long, and try if at all possible for them to be heel-length, or longer; don't be afraid of this. Wear a sport suit or a regular suit. Similarly, it is greatly preferable to be shaven.
"[Regarding] the items or the clothing in [your] car - Immediately get rid of everything in your car that indicates that you are religious, such as jihad cassettes, small papers such as post-its... The most important thing there must not be anything in the car indicating that the owner is a religious man... so that if the dogs of the security [apparatuses], the emergency [apparatuses], or the other [apparatuses] stop you in a suspicious place and search your car they will find nothing proving that you are religious, and will release you right away.
"While you are carrying out the operation, be careful not to take your cell phone with you - especially if it has a camera - so that it won't cause you, or your friends whose numbers are in the phone, problems with unknown consequences.
"Some Ways to Find a Crusader [i.e. a Westerner] or a Dog From the Security Apparatus
"In order to carry out the operation when the time comes, you must have a weapon (a pistol or a submachine gun) or a good knife, if you are interested in slaughtering this infidel or this [Saudi] dog...
"[How to find a target] in the Crusader settlements [i.e. compounds] that are found everywhere:
"The first method: At about seven AM, pass by the settlement and check only how these Crusaders leave it, and what road they take. Beware, my jihad-fighting brother, to pass by only once, because the military dogs at the gates [of the settlement] might suspect you and detain you.
"Two or three days later, pass by the [same] settlement, but don't go near it as you did the first time. That is, go straight to the road where [the settlement residents] go, and wait for them by the side of the road, and when you see one of these Crusaders, follow him.
"It is best to change vehicles each time, if you can. While following the Crusader, be very careful not to be exposed. For the most part, especially these days, they are feeling safer, because there are not many operations against them. But the jihad wave is approaching, and Allah will conceal this matter from them....

Read it all.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/012858.php

[KAOSKTRL]

August 27, 2006

Freed Fox reporters: we were forced to convert to Islam

Forced conversion is officially forbidden in Islamic law, but this is a law that has quite often been honored in the breach throughout Islamic history. Of course, since the Muslim prophet Muhammad couched his appeal to Islam (http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/092.sbt.html#009.092.447) in terms that made it clear that a negative response would result in loss of property and exile, the line between forced and uncoerced conversion to Islam has always been rather thinner than non-Muslims might assume.
"Fox reporters freed in Gaza, say forced to convert," from Hizballah News Agency, aka Reuters (http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-08-27T105138Z_01_L24549716_RTRUKOC_0_US-MIDEAST-GAZA-KIDNAPPINGS.xml), with thanks to all who sent this in:

GAZA (Reuters) - Militants in the Gaza Strip released two kidnapped journalists from the American Fox News Channel on Sunday after forcing them at gunpoint to say in a videotape they had converted to Islam. Correspondent Steve Centanni, a 60-year-old American, and New Zealand-born cameraman Olaf Wiig, 36, were in a hotel in the Palestinian coastal strip after two weeks of captivity.
A previously unknown group called the Holy Jihad Brigades had made a sweeping demand for the United States to free Muslim prisoners in exchange for the release of the men. The United States had rejected the demand.
"I am really fine, healthy, in good shape and so happy to be free," Centanni told the Fox Channel.
Centanni said he and Wiig were forced to convert to Islam at gunpoint.
"I have the highest respect for Islam ... but it was something we felt we had to do because they had the guns and we didn't know what the hell was going on."

August 27, 2006

Video of forced conversion of Fox journos highlights Qur'an quote "no compulsion in religion"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/nocompulsion.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2Sx9YCZW_g&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Flittlegreenfootballs%2Ecom%2Fweb log%2F)
Yeah, surrre
Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2Sx9YCZW_g&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Flittlegreenfootballs%2Ecom%2Fweb log%2F), from LGF (http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=22285_Fox_Journalists_Released&only), is a video trumpeting the conversions to Islam of the Fox journos Steve Centanni and Olaf Wiig -- conversions that we know now were coerced (http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/012888.php).
Ironically, the video highlights every Western dhimmi analyst's favorite Qur'an verse, "there is no compulsion in religion" (2:256).
Centanni, I can't help but notice, looks a bit like Johnny Carson reading a script from a bad Karnak the Magnificent routine, and indicating by various pauses and stumbles that he has never seen it before. See if you can count how many times the two of them make statements that scream with irony given the fact that what they're saying is coerced.
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[KAOSKTRL]

September 03, 2006

"To Americans and the rest of Christendom we say, either repent...or...suffer the consequences in this world and the next..."

Michelle Malkin (http://michellemalkin.com/archives/005851.htm) has transcribed a bit of Adam Gadahn's convert to Islam-or-die message (http://hotair.com/archives/2006/09/02/video-al-qaeda-tells-us-to-convert-or-die/) to America (and to Daniel Pipes, Michael Scheuer, Steve Emerson and me in particular). Please note that in extending this "invitation" to Islam coupled with a threat of violence, Gadahn is following the example of the Muslim prophet Muhammad (http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=24135) -- an example also followed recently by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Gadahn calls Muhammad (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1596980281/103-1673232-0592601?camp=1789&link%5Fcode=xm2&n=283155) "the chief and master of Adam's children, and the embodiment of high morals and good character."

"Islam is the only religion acceptable to God and came with the revealed book, the Koran, which abrogates all previous revelations, like the Torah and Evangel... God recognizes no separation between religion and state..."Gadahn here also makes an expression of the Islamic supremacism that usurps even the religious traditions of Jews and Christians. In line with the Qur'an, Gadahn says, "Abraham was neither a Jew or a Christian, but was a Muslim hanif." (A "hanif" is a pre-Islamic monotheist.) In other words, Judaism and Christianity as practiced today have no legitimacy, but are merely renegade corruptions of the true religion, Islam.
A little later he asks, "Who in his right mind would want to legislate himself to death, like you have done to yourselves?" I think he has a point there -- one which applies to legislation sponsored by the ACLU, CAIR and others to restrict our ability to defend ourselves from the likes of Adam Gadahn.

"To Americans and the rest of Christendom we say, either repent (your) misguided ways and enter into the light of truth or keep your poison to yourself and suffer the consequences in this world and the next..." "If the Zionist crusader missionaries of hate and counter-Islam consultants like Daniel Pipes, Robert Spencer, Michael Scheuer, Steven Emerson, and yes, even the crusader-in-chief George W. Bush were to abandon their unbelief and repent and enter into the light of Islam and turn their swords against the enemies of God, it would be accepted of them and they would be our brothers in Islam. And we send a special invitation to all of you fighting Bush's crusader pipe dream in Afghanistan, Iraq, and wherever else W. has sent you to die."
"Why not surrender to the truth? Escape from the unbelieving army and join the winning side. As for those who have expressed their respect and admiration for Islam, and acknowledged that it is the truth and demonstrated the support and sympathy for the Muslims and their causes like George Galloway, Robert Fisk, and countless others, I say to them, isn't it time you stopped sitting on the fence and came over to the side of truth? ...Abandon unbelief and accept the truth."

Thank you for the invitation, Adam, and for your thoughtfulness in extending to me in particular a personal invitation. But I'm afraid I must decline. While I appreciate that I would be your "brother in Islam" if I became a Muslim and turned my "sword against the enemies" of Allah, I cannot and will not give in to violent intimidation, come what may, and I do not want to live in a society that bows to such intimidation.
I believe that societies that respect the equality of rights before the law of all people, including women and religious minorities, as well as the freedom of conscience, are superior to those that do not. I hope that such societies will be able to summon the will to resist you and your "invitation" in all its implications before it is too late.
Meanwhile, Adam, I have a preliminary invitation of my own for you: I invite you to accept the Bill of Rights, and enter into the brotherhood of Thomas Jefferson and James Madison.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/012974.php#comments

[Sage]

Ive seen punk ass guys like him all my life, none of them have any guts, just punks with big mouths and no pop

[Vancouver]

Ive seen punk ass guys like him all my life, none of them have any guts, just punks with big mouths and no popMichelle Malkin and other commercial jihad-watchers such as
http://counterterrorismblog.org/
are making a big deal of this Gadahn tape, but I agree with the sage one: Gadahn is a nobody who controls nothing.

[Sage]

Third Grade Teacher Gets 15 Years For Aiding Terror Group
By Jerry Seper
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
Published August 26, 2006



A federal judge yesterday sentenced a former third-grade teacher at a Muslim school in Maryland to 15 years in prison for providing support to a terrorist organization known as the "Virginia jihad network," which used paintball games to train for a holy war.

At the sentencing hearing before U.S. District Judge Claude Hilton, Ali Asad Chandia maintained his innocence and pledged to exact revenge against prosecutors in the afterlife, saying that "those who participated in making my children orphans ... should just remember that the day of judgment is on the way."

Chandia, 29, who taught at the Al-Huda School in College Park, was convicted in June on three counts of providing material support in what prosecutors called a scheme by Islamic extremists to use force to drive India out of the disputed Kashmir territory in South Asia. A federal jury acquitted him of a fourth count of supporting terrorists.

Chandia was the last of 11 convicted "Virginia jihadists" to be sentenced to terms ranging from 46 months to life.

He was found guilty of serving as a driver for Mohammed Ajmal Khan, a senior military leader of the Lashkar-e-Taiba, which the U.S. government designated as a terrorist organization in December 2001. He also was convicted for assisting Khan in procuring military equipment for Lashkar and giving safe harbor to Khan during Khan's visits to the United States in 2002 and 2003.

"Terrorist organizations like Lashkar-e-Taiba rely on a network of individuals to carry out their deadly operations," said U.S. Attorney Chuck Rosenberg in Alexandria.

"Ali Asad Chandia was a member of that network for Lashkar-e-Taiba, and he will now spend a very long period of time in prison for providing material support in furtherance of its violent agenda."

The original indictment three years ago stated Chandia was among a dozen men who conspired and trained at shooting ranges and elsewhere in Maryland and Virginia with AK-47 assault rifles, other military weapons and equipment, and paintball guns beginning in 2000. Some training, including military tactics, also took place at the Quantico Marine Corps base in Prince William County.

Other Virginia jihad members convicted in the probe were Ali al-Timimi, 40, of Fairfax; Randall Todd Royer, 30, of Falls Church; Ibrahim Ahmed al-Hamdi of Alexandria; Masoud Ahmad Khan, 31, of Gaithersburg; Yong Ki Kwon, 27, of Fairfax; Mohammed Aatique, 30, of Norristown, Pa.; Hammad Abdur-Raheem, 35, of Falls Church; Donald Thomas Surratt, 30, of Suitland; Khwaja Mahmood Hasan, 27, of Alexandria; and Seifullah Chapman, 30, of Alexandria.

Two others, Caliph Basha Ibn Abdur-Raheem, 29, of Arlington, and Sabri Benkhala, 28, of Falls Church, were acquitted at trial.

The 41-count federal grand jury indictment handed up in U.S. District Court in Alexandria in June 2003 accused Chandia and the others of conspiracy to "prepare for and engage in violent jihad" against foreign targets in Kashmir, the Philippines and Chechnya. Nine were identified as U.S. citizens.

Then-U.S. Attorney Paul J. McNulty, whose Alexandria office prosecuted the case, said the men had met, plotted and recruited for violent jihad "right here in this community, 10 miles from Capitol Hill, in the streets of Northern Virginia."

Mr. McNulty, now deputy attorney general, called the indictments a "stark reminder" that terrorists are active in the United States and seek to exploit America's freedom to recruit and position themselves for new attacks. He said the Virginia jihadists "secretly plotted in this community and perversely planned and traveled to camps in Pakistan" to carry out the scheme.

Authorities said there was no specific information the men planned any attacks in the United States, although the indictment noted they had "an intent to serve in armed hostility against the United States" and had an Internet photo of the FBI headquarters building in Washington.

Prosecutors said the men, who also trained in St. Louis, attended classes hosted by Al-Timimi, an Islamic lecturer in Fairfax and the son of Iraqi immigrants. He reportedly advised them to go overseas after the September 11 attacks.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/func...25-110150-5430r (http://www.washingtontimes.com/func...25-110150-5430r)

[Camp]

Makes you appreciate your own kids obsession with Resident Evil.

[KAOSKTRL]

September 21, 2006

Indonesia executes Christians

An update on this story (http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/013218.php) from The Daily Telegraph (http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20456745-2,00.html), with thanks to TD:

THREE Indonesian Christians who were on death row for inciting violence against Muslims in 2000 were executed by firing squad, their lawyer said. "They have been executed. Their bodies are now undergoing an autopsy at the police hospital," lawyer Roy Rening said.
Mr Rening said he was informed of the executions of Fabianus Tibo, Dominggus da Silva and Marianus Riwu by the prosecutors office in Palu, the capital of religiously-divided Central Sulawesi province, where the men were being held....
A spokesman for Pope Benedict XVI said the executions were a "defeat for humanity".

Yes.
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Men 'murdered six-year-old girl in honour killing arson attack'

Eurabia Alert from the Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/09/20/nhonour20.xml), with thanks to all who sent this in:

Two men murdered a six-year-old girl by setting fire to her house to warn her brother off a relationship he was having, a court heard yesterday. Alisha Begum suffered 95 per cent burns and died after a masked man burst into her home, sprayed petrol around and set it alight. The fire spread so quickly that members of her family had to jump out of upstairs windows to escape.
Birmingham Crown Court heard the attack was planned by Hussain Ahmed, a 26-year-old dentist, and Daryll Tuzzio, 18, after Ahmed found out his 15-year-old sister was seeing Alisha's brother, Abdul Hamid, 21. Yesterday the two men went on trial accused of murder and the attempted murder of nine of the girl's relatives who escaped from the blazing house in Aston, Birmingham.
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Adrian Redgrave, prosecuting, said: "One hears of so-called honour killings though one may wonder how by any stretch of the imagination there can be any honour in what happened here, resulting in the death of a six-year-old child...."

Indeed.
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September 21, 2006

Indonesia executes Christians

An update on this story (http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/013218.php) from The Daily Telegraph (http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20456745-2,00.html), with thanks to TD:

THREE Indonesian Christians who were on death row for inciting violence against Muslims in 2000 were executed by firing squad, their lawyer said. "They have been executed. Their bodies are now undergoing an autopsy at the police hospital," lawyer Roy Rening said.
Mr Rening said he was informed of the executions of Fabianus Tibo, Dominggus da Silva and Marianus Riwu by the prosecutors office in Palu, the capital of religiously-divided Central Sulawesi province, where the men were being held....
A spokesman for Pope Benedict XVI said the executions were a "defeat for humanity".

Yes.
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Men 'murdered six-year-old girl in honour killing arson attack'

Eurabia Alert from the Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/09/20/nhonour20.xml), with thanks to all who sent this in:

Two men murdered a six-year-old girl by setting fire to her house to warn her brother off a relationship he was having, a court heard yesterday. Alisha Begum suffered 95 per cent burns and died after a masked man burst into her home, sprayed petrol around and set it alight. The fire spread so quickly that members of her family had to jump out of upstairs windows to escape.
Birmingham Crown Court heard the attack was planned by Hussain Ahmed, a 26-year-old dentist, and Daryll Tuzzio, 18, after Ahmed found out his 15-year-old sister was seeing Alisha's brother, Abdul Hamid, 21. Yesterday the two men went on trial accused of murder and the attempted murder of nine of the girl's relatives who escaped from the blazing house in Aston, Birmingham.
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Adrian Redgrave, prosecuting, said: "One hears of so-called honour killings though one may wonder how by any stretch of the imagination there can be any honour in what happened here, resulting in the death of a six-year-old child...."

Indeed.
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So much for self-defense and the innocence of the child.

A set of values incomprehensible to me.

[KAOSKTRL]

Second Assyrian Christian Killed in Retaliation for Pope's Remarks

More murderous Pope Rage. From AINA (http://www.aina.org/news/20060917014616.htm), with thanks to all who sent this in:

Baghdad (AINA) -- Sources at Baghdad's Yarmouk Hospital announced on Saturday the death of a second Assyrian Christian who fell victim to multiple stab wounds at the Assyrian market in the Doura District. His murder comes a day after the attack on Syriac Catholic Church in the Ashar district of central Basra where another man was murdered. Christian Leaders in Iraq have asked their parishioners to be extremely cautious and not to leave their homes as a new group called the young Brigades of Fundamental Islam ' has distributed papers announcing the slaying of all Iraqi Christians in three days if the Pope does not Apologize.

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[Ono]

The next words iut of the Pope's mounth should be 'I rest my case.'

[Atlas]

The next words out of the Pope's mouth should be 'I rest my case.'

Brilliant.

However, the quote that has their burqa's in a knot is in fact from a fouteenth century emporer, not from Benedict

They didn't even read it, just reacted.

[KAOSKTRL]

Jihad of one: Website tells how
'to fight alone'

Special to World Tribune.comGEOSTRATEGY-DIRECT.COM (http://www.geostrategy-direct.com/)Friday, October 13, 2006

An Islamist extremist Internet site last week published a book that directs terrorists on “how to fight alone.”

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Written by Al-Hakaymah, the "Guide for Individual Jihad" suggests ways to kill the enemy when one is fighting alone.
The recommended methods include stabbing, feeding overdoses of cocaine or heroin, injecting air via needles, assassination with guns, burning down homes, putting poisonous snakes in cars, tampering with car brakes, planting explosives in vehicles, running over people, and luring people and then killing them.
The book also highly recommends poisoning targets and includes various methods of preparing and obtaining lethal toxins, including botulism. The book also gives instructions on making improvised explosives. "These ideas, ways, and methods are subject to development and improvisation,” Al-Hakaymah stated.

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/06/front2454022.0881944443.html

[Camp]

The inner-struggle rhetoric makes me laugh out loud every time.

This matches the evidence.

[KAOSKTRL]

Like Duh
Islam is the most Warlike religion
A Danish language researcher has spent over three years analyzing the original texts of ten different religions, and concludes that the Islamic texts stand out by encouraging terror and violence to a larger degree than other religions do. Four years after the terror attacks at the World Trade Center, Danish linguist Tina Magaard presents an analysis that questions Islam’s relationship with terror, violence and Holy War.

Islamic texts encourage terror and fighting to a far larger degree than the original texts of other religions, concludes Tina Magaard. She has a PhD in Textual Analysis and Intercultural Communication from the Sorbonne in Paris, and has spent three years on a research project comparing the original texts of ten religions.

“The texts in Islam distinguish themselves from the texts of other religions by encouraging violence and aggression against people with other religious beliefs to a larger degree. There are also straightforward calls for terror. This has long been a taboo in the research into Islam, but it is a fact that we need to deal with," says Tina Magaard. Moreover, there are hundreds of calls in the Koran for fighting against people of other faiths. “If it is correct that many Muslims view the Koran as the literal words of God, which cannot be interpreted or rephrased, then we have a problem.

It is indisputable that the texts encourage terror and violence. Consequently, it must be reasonable to ask Muslims themselves how they relate to the text, if they read it as it is," says Tina Magaard.The Copenhagen imams Ahmed Abu Laban and Abdul Wahid Petersen are greatly upset by the analysis presented by the linguist. Abu Laban: “I don’t want to confine myself to a single stupid, prejudiced and dishonest researcher. Why waste time on somebody who wants to create twisted ideas about Islam?” Abdul Wahid Petersen calls the analysis ”academic nonsense":
”You cannot single out quotes and conclude the way she does. Most verses in the Koran should be viewed within a specific historical context and cannot be generalized. If there are so many calls for violence,
then why haven’t Muslims wiped out people of different faiths in the societies where Muslims make up the majority? Because we do not read the Koran that way.”
http://fjordman.blogspot.com/2005/09/islam-is-most-warlike-religion.html (http://fjordman.blogspot.com/2005/09/islam-is-most-warlike-religion.html)

Afghan Jew Becomes Country's One and Only
A Single Death in Kabul Cuts Community in Half
By N.C. AizenmanWashington Post Foreign ServiceThursday, January 27, 2005; Page A10
KABUL, Afghanistan, Jan. 26 -- When Zablon Simintov found Ishaq Levin sprawled on the cement synagogue floor last week, he immediately realized two things: His housemate and archnemesis of nearly seven years was dead, and he was now in all likelihood the last Afghan Jew still living in the country.
"I'm not sad about that," Simintov said with a frown Wednesday. He acknowledged dryly that he would not miss Levin, an octogenarian who apparently died of natural causes. Simintov, 44, had feuded bitterly with him for as long as the two men occupied separate rooms in the ruins of the only remaining synagogue in Kabul.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39702-2005Jan26.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39702-2005Jan26.html)

[Sage]

issues that deviated from Islamic orthodoxy

Muslim Moderates Under Siege
By Robert Spencer
FrontPageMagazine.com | October 17, 2006

Since I began work on my new book The Truth About Muhammad, I have often been asked whether I really think it will do any good to discuss the actions of Muhammad that jihadists use to justify violence. Doesn’t that alienate moderate Muslims? I have responded that actually no Islamic reform can possibly take place without an acknowledgment that there are elements of the Qur’an and the example of Muhammad that need searching reevaluation: how can reformers succeed if no one admits that anything needs any reforming?

At the same time, however, Islamic reformers have a difficult road. They are often targeted as apostates by jihadists, and often physically threatened. Farzana Hassan Shahid, the new president of the Muslim Canadian Congress (MCC), is the latest victim of this phenomenon. After her liberal views on many Islamic hot-button issues became known, she began receiving death threats from Muslim hardliners who considered her positions evidence of her falling away from Islam. One called her the “younger sister of Satan.” Another accosted her husband at an Ontario mosque and demanded he “control his wife.”

Consequently, Farzana Hassan Shahid explained, “there is an underlying fear all the time...that uneasy feeling is part of my daily life. I have been declared an apostate twice, for opposing the Sharia [Islamic law]. We have asked [Ontario Attorney General] Michael Bryant to include or acknowledge accusation of blasphemy and apostasy into the existing hate laws so the public and legal frame work is sensitized to this issue.” Hassan Shahid is not the first MCC official to be targeted by jihadists. Up until recently, Tarek Fatah was the MCC’s communications director. But in August he abruptly resigned from his position, as well as from the group’s board, severing all ties with the organization, although he had been one of its founders.

Fatah had excellent reasons to want to get out of the limelight. He had long been one of the most high-profile Muslim spokesmen in Canada: he was host of Muslim Chronicle, a current affairs TV-show focusing on Muslims in Canada. And as communications director of the Muslim Canadian Congress, he never shied away from controversy, endorsing positions on homosexual rights and other issues that deviated from Islamic orthodoxy – positions that Hassan Shahid has now echoed. Fatah even opposed the 2005 campaign to introduce arbitration courts based on Islamic law into Canada.

All that took courage. But instead of receiving congratulations from the Canadian Muslim community at large, Fatah became the target of an email campaign initiated by a Muslim student group, the Canadian Islamic Congress (CIC). The CIC claimed that Fatah didn’t represent the majority of Canadian Muslims. Fatah commented: “This is as close as one can gets to issuing a death threat, as it places me as an apostate and blasphemer.”

And Fatah, like Hassan Shahid, has received outright death threats. He told the Toronto Police that he has been receiving death threats since 2003, but lately they’re grown in number. And they’re credible enough in content to move him to resign and duck out of sight.

Voices of moderation or reform within Islamic communities are at a distinct disadvantage because jihadists can so effectively use the Qur’an and Sunnah against them to lend credence to their charges of apostasy. Also, all the schools of Islamic law mandate that an apostate male must be killed -- a command rooted in the teachings of Muhammad, who said, “If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him’” (Bukhari 4.52.260). Thus a death threat can become an act of piety.

It is bitterly ironic that Western non-Muslim observers who know little or nothing of Islam assume that voices of liberalism and reform are the dominant mainstream within Islamic communities in the West and elsewhere, when the reality is that people like Hassan Shahid and Fatah are, despite their popularity among Westerners who like to pride themselves on their “tolerance,” only marginally influential among Muslims -- and are, above all, hunted.

Muslim reformers deserve all the support we can give them. But we should stop deluding ourselves into thinking they’re the majority. And above all, government and law enforcement officials should stop building policy on the assumption that people like Farzana Hassan Shahid and Tarek Fatah are the majority.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...e.asp?ID=24969 (http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=24969)
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[KAOSKTRL]

CAIR discovers that I am not a Muslim

And they're not happy about it. Jihad Watch reader Nancy has alerted me to an "American Muslim News Brief" that contains this gem:

INCITEMENT: ROBERTSON CALLS QURAN 'FRAUDULENT,' SPENCER AGREES - TOP http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/44498.aspx (http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/44498.aspx)This refers to an interview I did a few days ago with Pat Robertson, the lone TV host who thus far has dared to discuss my new book The Truth About Muhammad (http://www.amazon.com/Truth-About-Muhammad-Intolerant-Religion/dp/1596980281/ref=pd_sxp_f_pt/102-8877429-4625750?ie=UTF8) on the air. I will happily go on any show -- Oprah, Al Franken, whatever -- but I have to be invited. Anyway, Robertson asked me during the segment -- I am working from memory -- if I would be willing to say that Muhammad's claim to be receiving divine revelations was fraudulent.
I responded, "Of course." Because after all, I am not a believer in Islam. Robertson's word choice was not politically correct, and it may hurt feelings; indeed, it is not a word I would have chosen. But essentially the only two choices on this question are these: either Muhammad received divine revelations, or he didn't. Non-Muslims do not believe Muhammad was a genuine prophet. That means that they believe that the things that are claimed to be revelations are not genuine revelations -- even if this view is presented with consummate tact and delicacy.
Accordingly, when Robertson asked me this question, I could do nothing but answer the way I did, simply because I am not a Muslim. To present this as "incitement" is, of course, trying to provoke the "hate crimes" that CAIR professes to abhor, but actually uses politically with consummate skill. The idea that someone would be incited to commit violence against Muslims because I stated that I do not believe Muhammad was a prophet is beyond asinine -- but of course it is also part of CAIR's larger attempt to control the national debate about Islam. Not only do they now protest against statements critical of Islam or Muslims, but even against rather simple and mild non-affirmations of Muslim belief by non-Muslims.
And they will keep doing this, because there is no shortage of willing stooges who will happily restrict themselves to an ever narrower sphere of discussion about Islam in order to appease the all-powerful gods of multiculturalism.
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[Sage]

Britain's race chief warns of violence over veil row

The row in Britain over Muslim women wearing the veil could trigger riots and worse, the country's race relations watchdog chief warned. Trevor Phillips (http://search.breitbart.com/q?s=%22Trevor+Phillips%22&sid=breitbart.com), chairman of the Commission for Racial Equality, said the divisions exposed in the debate that his dominated British media for more than two weeks risked sparking "fire" on the streets.


He said the friction between communities risked becoming "the trigger for the grim spiral that produced riots in the north of England (http://search.breitbart.com/q?s=%22north+of+England%22&sid=breitbart.com) five years ago. Only this time the conflict could be much worse". "All the recent evidence shows that we are, as a society, becoming more socially polarised by race and faith," Phillips wrote in The Sunday Times newspaper.

"The only place where this may not be true is in our schools and the main reason is that in many of our cities things cannot get any worse." He called for a "civilised" debate on race. The veil has been at the centre of a political storm over Muslim integration, with Prime Minister Tony Blair (http://search.breitbart.com/q?s=%22Prime+Minister+Tony+Blair%22&sid=breitbart.com) entering the debate by calling the veil a "mark of separation".

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/10/21/061022030651.i5uim43y.html

[Camp]

Race relations watchdog?

Good grief it's everywhere. Sacrifice humans to allah and you might get a news mention. Call an ideology what it is and then watch the bigot hater rhetoric begin in every editorial across the land. I am amazed at the volume and depth of stupidity out there.

[KAOSKTRL]

Another teacher murdered in southern Thailand; junta allows teachers to carry weapons


Thai Jihad Update. "Thailand extends emergency rule in south," from AFP (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070110/wl_asia_afp/thailandsouthunrest_070110153346):

BANGKOK (AFP) - Thailand's junta extended emergency rule in the restive south and said teachers there can carry arms, in an apparent return to strong-arm tactics after attempts at reconciliation.
The new government, installed after the September 19 coup, has tried to promote peace in the Muslim-majority region, where separatist violence has killed more than 1,800 since January 2004.
But the bloodshed has continued, prompting the Council for National Security (CNS), as the junta calls itself, to extend emergency rule for three more months in Yala, Narathiwat and Pattani provinces.
[...]
Thailand's military-backed government had said in late October that it would end emergency rule in January, after it revived a key regional mediation body and offered a series of other olive branches to the insurgents.
But the militants have not yet taken up the government's peace initiatives, and violence has spiralled, with civilians increasingly targeted.
Some 65 teachers and 10 students have been killed in the three southern provinces since the insurgency erupted, and 110 schools -- seen as easy targets representing the government -- have been set ablaze.
The fatal shooting Wednesday of a 39-year-old Muslim female teacher in Pattanit highlighted the problem, prompting Prime Minister Surayud Chulanont to hold an emergency security meeting in Bangkok.
After the meeting, the regional southern army commander agreed to allow teachers to arm themselves outside of working hours.
"It's up to the teachers, but I personally don't want teachers to get involved in fighting, because their duty is to teach," Lieutenant General Viroach Buacharoon told reporters.
"But they can be armed when they're on a private trip and out of working hours."
The military also agreed to step up patrols around schools.
"Security measures will vary depend on the school's location, but soldiers and police will be deployed during teaching hours. In some cases they will patrol around the school buildings," Viroach said.
The announcement came as the nation was still mourning the death Monday of a teacher who spent eight months in a coma (http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014743.php) after she was taken hostage and beaten at a school in Narathiwat.http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014813.php#comments (http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014813.php#comments)

[KAOSKTRL]

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"We shall kill all Thai Buddhists" (http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014834.php)

Thai Jihad Update. "One beheaded, two killed in Thai Muslim south," from Reuters: YALA, Thailand (Reuters) - Suspected Muslim militants beheaded a Buddhist man and shot dead two civilians in southern Thailand on Sunday as an uprising shows no signs...
Posted in Jihad Watch on January 14, 2007 01:51 PM
Another teacher murdered in southern Thailand; junta allows teachers to carry weapons (http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014813.php)

Thai Jihad Update. "Thailand extends emergency rule in south," from AFP: BANGKOK (AFP) - Thailand's junta extended emergency rule in the restive south and said teachers there can carry arms, in an apparent return to strong-arm tactics after attempts at...
Posted in Jihad Watch on January 12, 2007 01:12 AM
Thai Buddhist teacher dies after nearly 8 months in coma from Muslim mob attack (http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014743.php)

The Thai Jihad claims another killing. From The Associated Press, with thanks to Twostellas: BANGKOK, Thailand: A Buddhist teacher who was savagely beaten by a mob of Muslim villagers in restive southern Thailand last year died Monday after spending almost...
Posted in Jihad Watch on January 8, 2007 07:50 AM
Thailand: Bomb in mosque was brought in by Muslim (http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014674.php)

Whoops. On Monday there was an explosion inside a mosque in Thailand, but now it turns out that it was caused by a Muslim, who for reasons unknown brought the bomb into the mosque, where he...dropped it. "In brief: Victim...
Posted in Jihad Watch on January 3, 2007 09:54 AM
School principal and teacher killed, bodies burnt in Thailand's Muslim south (http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014647.php)

The jihad against education continues in southern Thailand. "Two teachers killed, set ablaze in Thailand's Muslim south," from AFP: YALA, Thailand : Suspected Islamic militants have shot dead two Buddhist teachers and then set their bodies ablaze near a school...
Posted in Jihad Watch on January 2, 2007 07:52 AM
Thailand: Western media, bent on defaming Islam, kills and burns Buddhist teachers -- no, wait... (http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014607.php)

The real perps were, believe it or not, Islamic jihadists, although the Bangkok Post doesn't deem that fact worthy of notice. "Insurgents kill, burn Buddhist teachers," from the Bangkok Post, with thanks to LS: Southern violence continues, as two teachers...
Posted in Jihad Watch on December 29, 2006 04:34 PM
What’s the difference between Jihad and militancy? (http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014604.php)

Sheikha Sajida explains it all for you at Al-Jazeera. She begins her answer by saying that the concept of jihad has been -- you guessed it -- "misinterpreted by the Western media," and it just goes downhill from there. But...
Posted in Jihad Watch on December 29, 2006 03:41 PM
Fitzgerald: Moral preening (http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014592.php)

Those who are criticizing Congressman Virgil Goode these days are engaging in moral preening, without any felt need of responsibility to study carefully both the actual contents of the belief-system too easily assumed to be a "religion" (and therefore, presumably,...
Posted in Jihad Watch on December 28, 2006 09:23 AM
Neighboring Thai villages at center of violence between Muslims, Buddhists (http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014463.php)

It's All About Israel Update. By Kim Barker in the Chicago Tribune, with thanks to Twostellas: OUTSIDE NARATHIWAT, Thailand - Once they were friends, the chiefs of neighboring Buddhist and Muslim villages, separated by less than a mile of rice...

[KAOSKTRL]

January 16, 2007

Video: Jihad preaching in British mosques

Three clips at YouTube from the British series Dispatches (thanks to Kasper):
Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MSFbhIG-sk)
Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoi5DWt3b0w)
Part 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_TjzCcTkE8)

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014842.php#comments