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Bag Sniper
10-19-2005, 10:42 AM
If you want them .. come and get them.

Pussy Spanish cowtow to the fuckin terrorists but get all ballsy with an arrest warrant for Americans.

Fuck you euro's

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051019/ap_on_re_eu/spain_us_journalist_death

Spanish Judge Issues Warrant for Three GIs 1 hour, 47 minutes ago

MADRID, Spain - A judge has issued an international arrest warrant for three U.S. soldiers whose tank fired on a Baghdad hotel during the Iraq war, killing a Spanish journalist and one other, a court official said Wednesday.


Judge Santiago Pedraz issued the warrant for Sgt. Shawn Gibson, Capt. Philip Wolford and Lt. Col. Philip de Camp, all from the U.S. 3rd Infantry.

Jose Couso, who worked for the Spanish television network Telecinco, died April 8, 2003, after a U.S. army tank crew fired a shell on Hotel Palestine in Baghdad where several journalists were staying to cover the war.

Reuters cameraman Taras Portsyuk, a Ukrainian, also was killed.

The Spanish judge said he issued the arrest order because of a lack of judicial cooperation from the United States regarding the case.

U.S. officials insist the soldiers believed they were being shot at when they opened fire.

Following the Palestine incident, Secretary of State Colin Powell said a review of the incident found that the use of force was justified.

In late 2003, the National Court, acting on a request from Couso's family, agreed to consider filing criminal charges against three members of the tank crew.

Rightwingnut
10-19-2005, 10:46 AM
Dont mean shit.

orrery
10-19-2005, 10:52 AM
Just out of curiousity, would it be possible to issue a warrant to arrest that judge? Isn't this authorization of military force by one government against another? An act of war? This guy should be arrested and tried for acts of war against the US.

Rightwingnut
10-19-2005, 10:58 AM
Just out of curiousity, would it be possible to issue a warrant to arrest that judge? Isn't this authorization of military force by one government against another? An act of war? This guy should be arrested and tried for acts of war against the US.

Hey! Maybe Spain will invade us now!

Bag Sniper
10-19-2005, 11:00 AM
Hey! Maybe Spain will invade us now!

hehehehehehehe ... the euro mouse that roared ....

orrery
10-19-2005, 11:01 AM
Hey! Maybe Spain will invade us now!

Still, we need to protect our investments. Training these soldiers is a multi-million dollar venture that comes straight out of our tax dollars. I'd like to see a bounty placed on this judge's head to send a message that they should not assume that just because Europe is "internationalizing" under the EU, does not mean that the US is joining them in their little project.

Bman
04-27-2007, 01:29 PM
The Associated Press

April 27, 2007 Friday 4:24 PM GMT

INTERNATIONAL NEWS


Judge indicts 3 U.S. soldiers in 2003 death of Spanish journalist in Iraq

By MAR ROMAN, Associated Press Writer

MADRID Spain


A judge indicted three U.S. soldiers Friday in the 2003 death of a Spanish journalist who was killed when their tank opened fire at a hotel in Baghdad.

Sgt. Shawn Gibson, Capt. Philip Wolford and Lt. Col. Philip DeCamp were charged with homicide in the death of Jose Couso and "a crime against the international community." This is defined under Spanish law as an indiscriminate or excessive attack against civilians during war.

At the time of the incident, all were from the 3rd Infantry Division, based in Fort Stewart, Ga. Judge Santiago Pedraz asked U.S. authorities to notify them of the indictment.

Couso, who worked as a cameraman for the Spanish TV network Telecinco, died on April 8, 2003, after a U.S. Army tank crew fired a shell at the Palestine Hotel, where many journalists were staying. Taras Portsyuk, a Ukrainian cameraman for Reuters, was also killed.

Following the incident, then-Secretary of State Colin Powell said the troops responded after drawing hostile fire from the hotel. He said a U.S. review of the incident found the use of force was justified.

According to the five-page indictment, DeCamp ordered the shot, and Wolford then authorized Gibson to carry it out.

"The people indicted knew and were aware that the Palestine Hotel was occupied by civilians, without there being a proved threat (sniper or otherwise) against themselves or the U.S troops, therefore, the tank shot that caused the death of Mr. Couso would constitute an attack, retaliation, or violence threat or act aimed at terrifying journalists," the indictment said.

DeCamp, who is now an adjunct professor of mathematics at the College of William and Mary in Williamsburg, Va., did not immediately return a telephone message left at his home. The school said he retired from the Army in July 2005.

Pedraz has issued several arrest warrants against the three, but the United States has made clear it will not hand them over.

The three men still run the risk of arrest under a Spanish-issued international warrant should they travel to any country that has an extradition treaty with Spain.

Under Spanish law, a crime committed against a Spaniard abroad can be prosecuted here if it is not investigated in the country where it was allegedly committed.

In a separate case in Italy that has irritated relations between Rome and Washington, prosecutors in February indicted 26 Americans, all but one believed to be CIA agents, accused of kidnapping a Muslim cleric in Milan in 2003.

Osama Hassan Mustafa Nasr, suspected of recruiting fighters for radical Islamic causes, was flown to Egypt as part of the CIA's extraordinary rendition program, and he was held in a prison where he has said he was tortured.

The 26 Americans have left Italy, and U.S. official have said they would not be turned over for prosecution even if Rome requests it. The trial is expected to start in June.

Resistance to the war in Iraq ran high in both Spain and Italy.

Spain was the scene of major protests before and during the early months of the U.S.-led invasion, with huge demonstrations in Barcelona and Madrid.

Mallard
04-27-2007, 01:30 PM
why do you dredge up one of Bags posts when you know he cannot respond to you?

Bman
04-27-2007, 01:31 PM
why do you dredge up one of Bags posts when you know he cannot respond to you?



Umm.. because its an update of the same story...

I wasn't expecting HIM personally to reply

Bman
04-27-2007, 01:32 PM
why do you dredge up one of Bags posts when you know he cannot respond to you?

BTW, why can't he respond?

Is he banned?

truthbtold
04-27-2007, 01:34 PM
that's bullshit!! it was a fucking war zone!! fuckers appease the terrorists and indicts our troops!! :mad_10:

truthbtold
04-27-2007, 01:34 PM
BTW, why can't he respond?

Is he banned?

ah yeah! has been for quite sometime!!

Bman
04-27-2007, 01:35 PM
ah yeah! has been for quite sometime!!

I thought he just got pissed and left after the Democrats won everything in Nov.

truthbtold
04-27-2007, 01:37 PM
I thought he just got pissed and left after the Democrats won everything in Nov.

nope he was banned I don't know for what reason, he posted as he always did.

CharlieHorse
04-27-2007, 01:44 PM
This is idiotic. A journalist goes into a war zone knowing the risks. That is part of the job. I am positive that the journalist would have in no way wanted this to happen! Field journalists understand situations much better than a judge ever could.

Edit: wow...old news. but time does not change the idiocy and the sheer arrogance of the judges ruling.

Bman
04-27-2007, 02:04 PM
This is idiotic. A journalist goes into a war zone knowing the risks. That is part of the job. I am positive that the journalist would have in no way wanted this to happen! Field journalists understand situations much better than a judge ever could.

Edit: wow...old news. but time does not change the idiocy and the sheer arrogance of the judges ruling.



See post #7


Its from today.. its not old news


The orginal article was that a judge wanted to arrest them...

Today they were indicted